Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: mfd: rohm,bd71847-pmic: Document rohm,clock-output-is-critical property

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On 10/29/21 00:24, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:06:13PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
>> On 10/20/21 12:14 PM, Vaittinen, Matti wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> I wonder if this really is something specific to ROHM ICs? Do you think
>>> this would warrant a generic, non vendor specific property? I am Ok with
>>> the ROHM specific property too but it just seems to me this might not be
>>> unique to ROHM IC(s).
> 
> I imagine we debated the need for a DT property when critical clocks was
> added to the kernel.

Sorry. I guess I've missed this. Maybe this was done back when I spent 
my days tinkering with strictly proprietary systems - or then I have 
just missed it.

>>> By the way, the very same clk driver where you implemented the property
>>> reading (patch 2/2) is used by few other ROHM PMICs. At least by
>>> BD71837, BD71828, BD71815, BD9576 and BD9573. So the code change here
>>> adds support for this property to all of those PMICs. I wonder if the
>>> property should be mentioned in all of the binding docs... That could be
>>> another argument for making this a generic property and describing it in
>>> clk yaml ;)
>>>
>>> Well, just my 10 Cents - I am ok with this change as you presented it
>>> here if you don't think this should be generic one.
>>
>> I think we need something like gpio-hog, except for clock. Some clk-hog
>> maybe ? That would be useful not only here, but also for things where some
>> output generates clock for random stuff which cannot be described in the DT
>> for whatever reason (like e.g. the SoC is used as a substitute for CPLD XTAL
>> and the CPLD isn't connected to the SoC in any other way).
> 
> The justification given in this patch was for an SoC input which should
> get described so that the clock is handled and kept enabled properly.
> 
> The CPLD case would be more interesting, but is there an actual need or
> just a possible case?
> 
> You could use the 'protected-clocks' property here. Maybe that's a bit
> overloaded between can't access and don't turn off. But what it means is
> really up the clock controller.

I think I have seen some patch series which are aimed to providing 
common implementation for the 'protected-clocks'. It seems to me the 
intended 'protected-clocks' handling is simply not registering these 
clocks. I don't see this handling in-tree yet though and I did not find 
any discussion as to why the generic support has not been merged.

So, if the 'protected-clocks' is to be supported by the driver, then I 
wonder if the handling should be 'ensure enabled and don't register to 
clock core' or plain 'don't register to clock core'?


Best Regards
--Matti Vaittinen




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