On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 7:48 AM Elias Abacioglu <elias.abacioglu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > If it's attachments causing this, perhaps forbid attachments? Force people to use pastebin / imgur type of services? > > /E > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 1:33 PM Martin Palma <martin@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Same here also on Gmail with G Suite. >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:31 AM Paul Emmerich <paul.emmerich@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> > I'm also seeing this once every few months or so on Gmail with G Suite. >> > >> > Paul >> > Am So., 7. Okt. 2018 um 08:18 Uhr schrieb Joshua Chen >> > <cschen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> > > >> > > I also got removed once, got another warning once (need to re-enable). >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > Joshua >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:38 AM Svante Karlsson <svante.karlsson@xxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> I'm also getting removed but not only from ceph. I subscribe dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx list and the same thing happens there. >> > >> >> > >> Den lör 6 okt. 2018 kl 23:24 skrev Jeff Smith <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> > >>> >> > >>> I have been removed twice. >> > >>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 7:07 AM Elias Abacioglu >> > >>> <elias.abacioglu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Hi, >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I'm bumping this old thread cause it's getting annoying. My membership get disabled twice a month. >> > >>> > Between my two Gmail accounts I'm in more than 25 mailing lists and I see this behavior only here. Why is only ceph-users only affected? Maybe Christian was on to something, is this intentional? >> > >>> > Reality is that there is a lot of ceph-users with Gmail accounts, perhaps it wouldn't be so bad to actually trying to figure this one out? >> > >>> > >> > >>> > So can the maintainers of this list please investigate what actually gets bounced? Look at my address if you want. >> > >>> > I got disabled 20181006, 20180927, 20180916, 20180725, 20180718 most recently. >> > >>> > Please help! >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Thanks, >> > >>> > Elias >> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:41 AM Christian Balzer <chibi@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Most mails to this ML score low or negatively with SpamAssassin, however >> > >>> >> once in a while (this is a recent one) we get relatively high scores. >> > >>> >> Note that the forged bits are false positives, but the SA is up to date and >> > >>> >> google will have similar checks: >> > >>> >> --- >> > >>> >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.9 required=10.0 tests=BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, >> > >>> >> FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, >> > >>> >> HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, >> > >>> >> RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,RDNS_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=no >> > >>> >> --- >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Between attachment mails and some of these and you're well on your way out. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> The default mailman settings and logic require 5 bounces to trigger >> > >>> >> unsubscription and 7 days of NO bounces to reset the counter. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Christian >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:23:25 +0900 Christian Balzer wrote: >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:15:22 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote: >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > > Thanks Christian, >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > You're no doubt on the right track, but I'd really like to figure out >> > >>> >> > > what it is at my end - I'm unlikely to be the only person subscribed >> > >>> >> > > to ceph-users via a gmail account. >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > Re. attachments, I'm surprised mailman would be allowing them in the >> > >>> >> > > first place, and even so gmail's attachment requirements are less >> > >>> >> > > strict than most corporate email setups (those that don't already use >> > >>> >> > > a cloud provider). >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > Mailman doesn't do anything with this by default AFAIK, but see below. >> > >>> >> > Strict is fine if you're in control, corporate mail can be hell, doubly so >> > >>> >> > if on M$ cloud. >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > > This started happening earlier in the year after I turned off digest >> > >>> >> > > mode. I also have a paid google domain, maybe I'll try setting >> > >>> >> > > delivery to that address and seeing if anything changes... >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > Don't think google domain is handled differently, but what do I know. >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Though the digest bit confirms my suspicion about attachments: >> > >>> >> > --- >> > >>> >> > When a subscriber chooses to receive plain text daily “digests” of list >> > >>> >> > messages, Mailman sends the digest messages without any original >> > >>> >> > attachments (in Mailman lingo, it “scrubs” the messages of attachments). >> > >>> >> > However, Mailman also includes links to the original attachments that the >> > >>> >> > recipient can click on. >> > >>> >> > --- >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Christian >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > > Cheers, >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > On 16 October 2017 at 13:54, Christian Balzer <chibi@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > Hello, >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > You're on gmail. >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > Aside from various potential false positives with regards to spam my bet >> > >>> >> > > > is that gmail's known dislike for attachments is the cause of these >> > >>> >> > > > bounces and that setting is beyond your control. >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > Because Google knows best[tm]. >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > Christian >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:50:43 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote: >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > >> Hi all, >> > >>> >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> This is a mailing-list admin issue - I keep being unsubscribed from >> > >>> >> > > >> ceph-users with the message: >> > >>> >> > > >> "Your membership in the mailing list ceph-users has been disabled due >> > >>> >> > > >> to excessive bounces..." >> > >>> >> > > >> This seems to be happening on roughly a monthly basis. >> > >>> >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> Thing is I have no idea what the bounce is or where it is coming from. >> > >>> >> > > >> I've tried emailing ceph-users-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx and the contact >> > >>> >> > > >> listed in Mailman (lvaz@xxxxxxxxxx) to get more info but haven't >> > >>> >> > > >> received any response despite several attempts. >> > >>> >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> Help! >> > >>> >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > -- >> > >>> >> > > > Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer >> > >>> >> > > > chibi@xxxxxxx Rakuten Communications >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> -- >> > >>> >> Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer >> > >>> >> chibi@xxxxxxx Rakuten Communications >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> >> ceph-users mailing list >> > >>> >> ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >>> >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > >>> > >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > ceph-users mailing list >> > >>> > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >>> > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> ceph-users mailing list >> > >>> ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> ceph-users mailing list >> > >> ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > ceph-users mailing list >> > > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Paul Emmerich >> > >> > Looking for help with your Ceph cluster? 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