Most mails to this ML score low or negatively with SpamAssassin, however once in a while (this is a recent one) we get relatively high scores. Note that the forged bits are false positives, but the SA is up to date and google will have similar checks: --- X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.9 required=10.0 tests=BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,RDNS_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=no --- Between attachment mails and some of these and you're well on your way out. The default mailman settings and logic require 5 bounces to trigger unsubscription and 7 days of NO bounces to reset the counter. Christian On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:23:25 +0900 Christian Balzer wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:15:22 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote: > > > Thanks Christian, > > > > You're no doubt on the right track, but I'd really like to figure out > > what it is at my end - I'm unlikely to be the only person subscribed > > to ceph-users via a gmail account. > > > > Re. attachments, I'm surprised mailman would be allowing them in the > > first place, and even so gmail's attachment requirements are less > > strict than most corporate email setups (those that don't already use > > a cloud provider). > > > Mailman doesn't do anything with this by default AFAIK, but see below. > Strict is fine if you're in control, corporate mail can be hell, doubly so > if on M$ cloud. > > > This started happening earlier in the year after I turned off digest > > mode. I also have a paid google domain, maybe I'll try setting > > delivery to that address and seeing if anything changes... > > > Don't think google domain is handled differently, but what do I know. > > Though the digest bit confirms my suspicion about attachments: > --- > When a subscriber chooses to receive plain text daily “digests” of list > messages, Mailman sends the digest messages without any original > attachments (in Mailman lingo, it “scrubs” the messages of attachments). > However, Mailman also includes links to the original attachments that the > recipient can click on. > --- > > Christian > > > Cheers, > > > > On 16 October 2017 at 13:54, Christian Balzer <chibi@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > You're on gmail. > > > > > > Aside from various potential false positives with regards to spam my bet > > > is that gmail's known dislike for attachments is the cause of these > > > bounces and that setting is beyond your control. > > > > > > Because Google knows best[tm]. > > > > > > Christian > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:50:43 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> This is a mailing-list admin issue - I keep being unsubscribed from > > >> ceph-users with the message: > > >> "Your membership in the mailing list ceph-users has been disabled due > > >> to excessive bounces..." > > >> This seems to be happening on roughly a monthly basis. > > >> > > >> Thing is I have no idea what the bounce is or where it is coming from. > > >> I've tried emailing ceph-users-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx and the contact > > >> listed in Mailman (lvaz@xxxxxxxxxx) to get more info but haven't > > >> received any response despite several attempts. > > >> > > >> Help! > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer > > > chibi@xxxxxxx Rakuten Communications > > > > > > > > -- Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer chibi@xxxxxxx Rakuten Communications _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
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