Re: where is it possible download CentOS 7.5

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Brad Hubbard <bhubbard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Max Cuttins <max@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Brad,

    that post was mine. I knew it quite well.

That Post was about confirm the fact that minimum requirements written in the documentation really didn't exists.

However I never asked if there is somewhere a place where is possible to download the DEV or the RC of Centos7.5.
I was thinking about to join the community of tester and developers that are already testing Ceph on that "not ready" environment.

In that POST these questions were not really made, so no answer where given.


From that thread.

"The necessary kernel changes actually are included as part of 4.16-rc1
which is available now. We also offer a pre-built test kernel with the
necessary fixes here [1].

[1] https://shaman.ceph.com/repos/kernel/ceph-iscsi-test/"

I notice that URL is unavailable so maybe the real question should be why is that kernel no longer available?

Turns out this build got "garbage collected" and replacing it is being worked on right now.
 

There are plenty more available at https://shaman.ceph.com/repos/kernel/testing/ but *I* can't tell you which is relevant but perhaps someone else can.

I see that you talked also about other distribution. Well, I read around that Suse already implement iSCSI.
However as far as I know (which is not so much), this distribution use modified kernel in order to let this work.
And in order to use it it's needed  a dashboard that can handle these kind of differences (OpenAttic).
I knew already OpenAttic is contributing in developing the next generation of the Ceph Dashboard (and this sound damn good!).
However this also means to me that the official dashboard should not be talking about ISCSI at all (as every implementation of iSCSI are running on mod version).

So these are the things I cannot figure out:
Why is the iSCSI board on the CEPH official dashboard? (I could understand on OpenAttic which run on SUSE but not on the official one).

Why do you believe it should not be?

And why, in the official documentation, the minimu requirements to let iSCSI work, is to install CentOS7.5? Which doesn't exist? Is there a RC candidate which I can start to use?


But it doesn't say that, it says " RHEL/CentOS 7.5; Linux kernel v4.16 or newer; or the Ceph iSCSI client test kernel". You seem to be ignoring the "Ceph iSCSI client test kernel" part?

And... if SUSE or even other distribution works already with iSCSI... why the documentation just doesn't reccomend these ones instead of RHEL or CENTOS?

Because that would be odd, to say the least. If the documentation is incorrect for CentOS then it was, at least at some point, thought to be correct and it probably will be correct again in the near future and, if not, we can review and correct it as necessary.

There is something confused about what the documentation minimal requirements, the dashboard suggest to be able to do, and what i read around about modded Ceph for other linux distributions.
I create a new post to clarify all these points.

Thanks for your answer! :)



Il 27/03/2018 11:24, Brad Hubbard ha scritto:
See the thread in this very ML titled "Ceph iSCSI is a prank?", last update thirteen days ago.

If your questions are not answered by that thread let us know.

Please also remember that CentOS is not the only platform that ceph runs on by a long shot and that not all distros lag as much as it (not a criticism, just a fact. The reasons for lagging are valid and well documented and should be accepted by those who choose to use them). if you want the bleeding edge then rhel/centos should not be your platform of choice.


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Max Cuttins <max@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Jason,

this is exactly what i read around and I supposed.
The RHEL 7.5 is not yet released (neither is Kernel 4.16)

So my dubt are 2:

1) If it's not released... why is this in the documentation?
Is the documentation talking about a Dev candidate already accessible somewhere?

2) why in the dashboard is there already a iSCSI board?
I guess I miss something.... or is really just for future implementation and not usable yet?
And if it is usable... where I can download the necessarie in order to start?


Il 26/03/2018 14:10, Jason Dillaman ha scritto:
RHEL 7.5 has not been released yet, but it should be released very
soon. After it's released, it usually takes the CentOS team a little
time to put together their matching release. I also suspect that Linux
kernel 4.16 is going to be released in the next week or so as well.

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Max Cuttins <max@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As stated in the documentation, in order to use iSCSI it's needed use
CentOS7.5.
Where can I download it?


Thanks


iSCSI Targets

Traditionally, block-level access to a Ceph storage cluster has been limited
to QEMU and librbd, which is a key enabler for adoption within OpenStack
environments. Starting with the Ceph Luminous release, block-level access is
expanding to offer standard iSCSI support allowing wider platform usage, and
potentially opening new use cases.

RHEL/CentOS 7.5; Linux kernel v4.16 or newer; or the Ceph iSCSI client test
kernel
A working Ceph Storage cluster, deployed with ceph-ansible or using the
command-line interface
iSCSI gateways nodes, which can either be colocated with OSD nodes or on
dedicated nodes
Separate network subnets for iSCSI front-end traffic and Ceph back-end
traffic


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