Re: Cache Tiering Question

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015, Robert LeBlanc wrote:
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> Is the only option to restart the librbd client in this case? Anything
> I can do to help resolve it?

If you know which OSD the request is outstanding against (ceph daemon 
<asok file> objecter_requests) you can mark that osd down.. that should 
make the client resend.

sage


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> Thanks,
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> Robert LeBlanc
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> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Sage Weil  wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015, Robert LeBlanc wrote:
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> >> I started another fio test to one of the same RBDs (leaving the hung
> >> ones still hung) and it is working OK, but the hungs ones are still
> >> just hung.
> >
> > There is a full-disk failsafe that is still somewhat buggy that could
> > explain the hung requests (if they were writes and submitted while the
> > osd(s) were near full).
> >
> > sage
> >
> >
> >> - ----------------
> >> Robert LeBlanc
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> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Robert LeBlanc  wrote:
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> >> > OK, I've set this up and now all I/O is locked up. I've reduced
> >> > target_max_bytes because one OSD was reporting 97% usage, there was
> >> > some I/O for a few seconds as things flushed, but client I/O is still
> >> > blocked. Anyone have some thoughts?
> >> >
> >> > ceph osd crush rule create-simple ssd-tier ssd host firstn
> >> > ceph osd pool create ssd-pool 128 replicated ssd-tier
> >> > ceph osd tier add rbd ssd-pool
> >> > ceph osd tier cache-mode ssd-pool writeback
> >> > ceph osd tier set-overlay rbd ssd-pool
> >> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool hit_set_type bloom
> >> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool hit_set_count 6
> >> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool hit_set_period 600
> >> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool min_read_recency_for_promote 6
> >> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool cache_target_dirty_ratio 0.4
> >> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool cache_target_full_ratio 0.8
> >> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool target_max_bytes 795642691584
> >> >
> >> > ceph version 0.94.3-252-g629b631 (629b631488f044150422371ac77dfc005f3de1bc)
> >> >
> >> > # ceph status
> >> >     cluster 050309fd-723e-42aa-9624-3b3e033ab359
> >> >      health HEALTH_OK
> >> >      monmap e1: 1 mons at {nodez=192.168.55.15:6789/0}
> >> >             election epoch 2, quorum 0 nodez
> >> >      osdmap e1333: 18 osds: 18 up, 18 in
> >> >       pgmap v87157: 384 pgs, 2 pools, 3326 GB data, 1368 kobjects
> >> >             3010 GB used, 20262 GB / 24518 GB avail
> >> >                  384 active+clean
> >> >
> >> > # ceph osd df
> >> > ID WEIGHT  REWEIGHT SIZE   USE    AVAIL  %USE  VAR
> >> > 18 0.20000  1.00000   208G   135G 64764M 64.63 4.77
> >> >  5 0.20999  1.00000   210G   181G 18392M 86.36 6.38
> >> > 19 0.21999  1.00000   208G   161G 37941M 77.17 5.70
> >> > 10 0.18999  1.00000   210G   167G 32712M 79.70 5.89
> >> >  7 0.20999  1.00000   210G   181G 18405M 86.35 6.38
> >> > 20 0.20000  1.00000   208G   119G 80247M 57.39 4.24
> >> > 22 0.20000  1.00000   208G 87596M   112G 40.95 3.02
> >> >  8 0.20999  1.00000   210G   170G 29422M 81.23 6.00
> >> > 23 0.20999  1.00000   208G   151G 47404M 72.75 5.37
> >> >  1 0.20999  1.00000   210G   105G 96245M 50.17 3.71
> >> >  6 0.20999  1.00000   210G   131G 69937M 62.40 4.61
> >> > 21 0.20000  1.00000   208G   192G  5667M 92.26 6.81
> >> >  0 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   231G  3249G  6.32 0.47
> >> >  9 3.57999  1.00000  3667G   262G  3219G  7.15 0.53
> >> >  2 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   273G  3207G  7.47 0.55
> >> >  3 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   256G  3224G  6.99 0.52
> >> >  4 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   239G  3241G  6.54 0.48
> >> > 24 3.57999  1.00000  3667G   272G  3208G  7.42 0.55
> >> >               TOTAL 24518G  3320G 19952G 13.54
> >> > MIN/MAX VAR: 0.47/6.81  STDDEV: 48.64
> >> >
> >> > After dropping target_max_bytes to 644470580183:
> >> > # ceph df
> >> > GLOBAL:
> >> >     SIZE       AVAIL      RAW USED     %RAW USED
> >> >     24518G     20241G        3031G         12.36
> >> > POOLS:
> >> >     NAME         ID     USED      %USED     MAX AVAIL     OBJECTS
> >> >     rbd          0      2856G     11.65         6379G     1158862
> >> >     ssd-pool     3       470G      1.92          162G      242140
> >> > # ceph osd df
> >> > ID WEIGHT  REWEIGHT SIZE   USE     AVAIL   %USE  VAR
> >> > 18 0.20000  1.00000   208G    116G  83987M 55.64 4.50
> >> >  5 0.20999  1.00000   210G    151G  49392M 71.95 5.82
> >> > 19 0.21999  1.00000   208G    134G  65792M 64.15 5.19
> >> > 10 0.18999  1.00000   210G    138G  61961M 66.11 5.35
> >> >  7 0.20999  1.00000   210G    149G  50672M 71.36 5.77
> >> > 20 0.20000  1.00000   208G 101842M 101167M 47.61 3.85
> >> > 22 0.20000  1.00000   208G  72511M    127G 33.90 2.74
> >> >  8 0.20999  1.00000   210G    145G  55381M 69.17 5.59
> >> > 23 0.20999  1.00000   208G    127G  72305M 61.11 4.94
> >> >  1 0.20999  1.00000   210G  95656M    105G 44.46 3.60
> >> >  6 0.20999  1.00000   210G    109G  92154M 52.07 4.21
> >> > 21 0.20000  1.00000   208G    158G  40521M 75.97 6.14
> >> >  0 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    231G   3249G  6.32 0.51
> >> >  9 3.57999  1.00000  3667G    262G   3219G  7.15 0.58
> >> >  2 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    273G   3207G  7.47 0.60
> >> >  3 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    256G   3224G  6.99 0.57
> >> >  4 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    239G   3241G  6.54 0.53
> >> > 24 3.57999  1.00000  3667G    272G   3208G  7.42 0.60
> >> >               TOTAL 24518G   3031G  20241G 12.36
> >> > MIN/MAX VAR: 0.51/6.14  STDDEV: 39.87
> >> >
> >> > # ceph osd tree
> >> > ID  WEIGHT   TYPE NAME           UP/DOWN REWEIGHT PRIMARY-AFFINITY
> >> >  -9  2.46991 root ssd
> >> >  -8  0.40999     host nodew-ssd
> >> >  18  0.20000         osd.18           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >   5  0.20999         osd.5            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> > - -10  0.40997     host nodev-ssd
> >> >  19  0.21999         osd.19           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >  10  0.18999         osd.10           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> > - -11  0.40999     host nodezz-ssd
> >> >   7  0.20999         osd.7            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >  20  0.20000         osd.20           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> > - -12  0.40999     host nodey-ssd
> >> >  22  0.20000         osd.22           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >   8  0.20999         osd.8            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> > - -13  0.41998     host nodex-ssd
> >> >  23  0.20999         osd.23           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >   1  0.20999         osd.1            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> > - -14  0.40999     host nodez-ssd
> >> >   6  0.20999         osd.6            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >  21  0.20000         osd.21           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >  -1 21.71997 root default
> >> >  -2  3.64000     host nodez
> >> >   0  3.64000         osd.0            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >  -3  3.57999     host nodew
> >> >   9  3.57999         osd.9            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >  -4  3.64000     host nodex
> >> >   2  3.64000         osd.2            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >  -5  3.64000     host nodey
> >> >   3  3.64000         osd.3            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >  -6  3.64000     host nodezz
> >> >   4  3.64000         osd.4            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >  -7  3.57999     host nodev
> >> >  24  3.57999         osd.24           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >> >
> >> > # ceph osd crush rule dump
> >> > [
> >> >     {
> >> >         "rule_id": 0,
> >> >         "rule_name": "replicated_ruleset",
> >> >         "ruleset": 0,
> >> >         "type": 1,
> >> >         "min_size": 1,
> >> >         "max_size": 10,
> >> >         "steps": [
> >> >             {
> >> >                 "op": "take",
> >> >                 "item": -1,
> >> >                 "item_name": "default"
> >> >             },
> >> >             {
> >> >                 "op": "chooseleaf_firstn",
> >> >                 "num": 0,
> >> >                 "type": "host"
> >> >             },
> >> >             {
> >> >                 "op": "emit"
> >> >             }
> >> >         ]
> >> >     },
> >> >     {
> >> >         "rule_id": 1,
> >> >         "rule_name": "ssd-tier",
> >> >         "ruleset": 1,
> >> >         "type": 1,
> >> >         "min_size": 1,
> >> >         "max_size": 10,
> >> >         "steps": [
> >> >             {
> >> >                 "op": "take",
> >> >                 "item": -9,
> >> >                 "item_name": "ssd"
> >> >             },
> >> >             {
> >> >                 "op": "chooseleaf_firstn",
> >> >                 "num": 0,
> >> >                 "type": "host"
> >> >             },
> >> >             {
> >> >                 "op": "emit"
> >> >             }
> >> >         ]
> >> >     }
> >> > ]
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> >> > ----------------
> >> > Robert LeBlanc
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> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Christian Balzer  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> Having run into this myself two days ago (setting relative sizing values
> >> >> doesn't flush things when expected) I'd say that the documentation is
> >> >> highly misleading when it comes to the relative settings.
> >> >>
> >> >> And unclear when it comes to the size/object settings.
> >> >>
> >> >> Guess this section needs at least one nice red paragraph and some further
> >> >> explanations.
> >> >>
> >> >> Christian
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:33:30 -0600 Robert LeBlanc wrote:
> >> >>
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> >> >>> One more question. Is max_{bytes,objects} before or after replication
> >> >>> factor?
> >> >>> - ----------------
> >> >>> Robert LeBlanc
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> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:42 PM, LOPEZ Jean-Charles  wrote:
> >> >>> > Hi Robert,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > yes they do.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Pools don?t have a size when you create them hence the couple
> >> >>> > value/ratio that is to be defined for cache tiering mechanism. Pool
> >> >>> > only have a number of PGs assigned. So setting the max values and the
> >> >>> > ratios for dirty and full must be set explicitly to match your
> >> >>> > configuration.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Note that you can at the same time define max_bytes and max_objects.
> >> >>> > The first of the 2 values that breaches using your ratio settings will
> >> >>> > trigger eviction and/or flushing. The ratios you choose apply to both
> >> >>> > values.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Cheers
> >> >>> > JC
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> On 15 Oct 2015, at 15:02, Robert LeBlanc  wrote:
> >> >>> >>
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> >> >>> >> hmmm...
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/cache-tiering/#relative-sizing
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> makes it sound like it should be based on the size of the pool and
> >> >>> >> that you don't have to set anything like max bytes/objects. Can you
> >> >>> >> confirm that cache_target_{dirty,dirty_high,full}_ratio works as a
> >> >>> >> ratio of target_max_bytes set?
> >> >>> >> - ----------------
> >> >>> >> Robert LeBlanc
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> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Nick Fisk  wrote:
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> >>>> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> >>> >>>> Behalf Of Robert LeBlanc
> >> >>> >>>> Sent: 15 October 2015 22:06
> >> >>> >>>> To: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>> >>>> Subject:  Cache Tiering Question
> >> >>> >>>>
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> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> ceph df (ceph version 0.94.3-252-g629b631
> >> >>> >>>> (629b631488f044150422371ac77dfc005f3de1bc)) is showing some odd
> >> >>> >>>> results:
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> root@nodez:~# ceph df
> >> >>> >>>> GLOBAL:
> >> >>> >>>>    SIZE       AVAIL      RAW USED     %RAW USED
> >> >>> >>>>    24518G     21670G        1602G          6.53
> >> >>> >>>> POOLS:
> >> >>> >>>>    NAME         ID     USED      %USED     MAX AVAIL     OBJECTS
> >> >>> >>>>    rbd          0      2723G     11.11         6380G     1115793
> >> >>> >>>>    ssd-pool     2          0         0          732G           1
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> The rbd pool is showing 11.11% used, but if you calculate the
> >> >>> >>>> numbers
> >> >>> >>> there
> >> >>> >>>> it is 2723/6380=42.68%.
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> I have a feeling that the percentage is based on the amount used of
> >> >>> >>> the total cluster size. Ie 2723/24518
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> Will this cause problems with the relative cache tier settings? Do
> >> >>> >>>> I need
> >> >>> >>> to set
> >> >>> >>>> the percentage based on what Ceph is reporting here?
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> The flushing/eviction thresholds are based on the target_max_bytes
> >> >>> >>> number that you set, they have nothing to do with the underlying
> >> >>> >>> pool size. It's up to you to come up with a sane number for this
> >> >>> >>> variable.
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> Thanks,
> >> >>> >>>> - ----------------
> >> >>> >>>> Robert LeBlanc
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