Re: Cache Tiering Question

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I started another fio test to one of the same RBDs (leaving the hung
ones still hung) and it is working OK, but the hungs ones are still
just hung.
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Robert LeBlanc
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On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Robert LeBlanc  wrote:
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> OK, I've set this up and now all I/O is locked up. I've reduced
> target_max_bytes because one OSD was reporting 97% usage, there was
> some I/O for a few seconds as things flushed, but client I/O is still
> blocked. Anyone have some thoughts?
>
> ceph osd crush rule create-simple ssd-tier ssd host firstn
> ceph osd pool create ssd-pool 128 replicated ssd-tier
> ceph osd tier add rbd ssd-pool
> ceph osd tier cache-mode ssd-pool writeback
> ceph osd tier set-overlay rbd ssd-pool
> ceph osd pool set ssd-pool hit_set_type bloom
> ceph osd pool set ssd-pool hit_set_count 6
> ceph osd pool set ssd-pool hit_set_period 600
> ceph osd pool set ssd-pool min_read_recency_for_promote 6
> ceph osd pool set ssd-pool cache_target_dirty_ratio 0.4
> ceph osd pool set ssd-pool cache_target_full_ratio 0.8
> ceph osd pool set ssd-pool target_max_bytes 795642691584
>
> ceph version 0.94.3-252-g629b631 (629b631488f044150422371ac77dfc005f3de1bc)
>
> # ceph status
>     cluster 050309fd-723e-42aa-9624-3b3e033ab359
>      health HEALTH_OK
>      monmap e1: 1 mons at {nodez=192.168.55.15:6789/0}
>             election epoch 2, quorum 0 nodez
>      osdmap e1333: 18 osds: 18 up, 18 in
>       pgmap v87157: 384 pgs, 2 pools, 3326 GB data, 1368 kobjects
>             3010 GB used, 20262 GB / 24518 GB avail
>                  384 active+clean
>
> # ceph osd df
> ID WEIGHT  REWEIGHT SIZE   USE    AVAIL  %USE  VAR
> 18 0.20000  1.00000   208G   135G 64764M 64.63 4.77
>  5 0.20999  1.00000   210G   181G 18392M 86.36 6.38
> 19 0.21999  1.00000   208G   161G 37941M 77.17 5.70
> 10 0.18999  1.00000   210G   167G 32712M 79.70 5.89
>  7 0.20999  1.00000   210G   181G 18405M 86.35 6.38
> 20 0.20000  1.00000   208G   119G 80247M 57.39 4.24
> 22 0.20000  1.00000   208G 87596M   112G 40.95 3.02
>  8 0.20999  1.00000   210G   170G 29422M 81.23 6.00
> 23 0.20999  1.00000   208G   151G 47404M 72.75 5.37
>  1 0.20999  1.00000   210G   105G 96245M 50.17 3.71
>  6 0.20999  1.00000   210G   131G 69937M 62.40 4.61
> 21 0.20000  1.00000   208G   192G  5667M 92.26 6.81
>  0 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   231G  3249G  6.32 0.47
>  9 3.57999  1.00000  3667G   262G  3219G  7.15 0.53
>  2 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   273G  3207G  7.47 0.55
>  3 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   256G  3224G  6.99 0.52
>  4 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   239G  3241G  6.54 0.48
> 24 3.57999  1.00000  3667G   272G  3208G  7.42 0.55
>               TOTAL 24518G  3320G 19952G 13.54
> MIN/MAX VAR: 0.47/6.81  STDDEV: 48.64
>
> After dropping target_max_bytes to 644470580183:
> # ceph df
> GLOBAL:
>     SIZE       AVAIL      RAW USED     %RAW USED
>     24518G     20241G        3031G         12.36
> POOLS:
>     NAME         ID     USED      %USED     MAX AVAIL     OBJECTS
>     rbd          0      2856G     11.65         6379G     1158862
>     ssd-pool     3       470G      1.92          162G      242140
> # ceph osd df
> ID WEIGHT  REWEIGHT SIZE   USE     AVAIL   %USE  VAR
> 18 0.20000  1.00000   208G    116G  83987M 55.64 4.50
>  5 0.20999  1.00000   210G    151G  49392M 71.95 5.82
> 19 0.21999  1.00000   208G    134G  65792M 64.15 5.19
> 10 0.18999  1.00000   210G    138G  61961M 66.11 5.35
>  7 0.20999  1.00000   210G    149G  50672M 71.36 5.77
> 20 0.20000  1.00000   208G 101842M 101167M 47.61 3.85
> 22 0.20000  1.00000   208G  72511M    127G 33.90 2.74
>  8 0.20999  1.00000   210G    145G  55381M 69.17 5.59
> 23 0.20999  1.00000   208G    127G  72305M 61.11 4.94
>  1 0.20999  1.00000   210G  95656M    105G 44.46 3.60
>  6 0.20999  1.00000   210G    109G  92154M 52.07 4.21
> 21 0.20000  1.00000   208G    158G  40521M 75.97 6.14
>  0 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    231G   3249G  6.32 0.51
>  9 3.57999  1.00000  3667G    262G   3219G  7.15 0.58
>  2 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    273G   3207G  7.47 0.60
>  3 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    256G   3224G  6.99 0.57
>  4 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    239G   3241G  6.54 0.53
> 24 3.57999  1.00000  3667G    272G   3208G  7.42 0.60
>               TOTAL 24518G   3031G  20241G 12.36
> MIN/MAX VAR: 0.51/6.14  STDDEV: 39.87
>
> # ceph osd tree
> ID  WEIGHT   TYPE NAME           UP/DOWN REWEIGHT PRIMARY-AFFINITY
>  -9  2.46991 root ssd
>  -8  0.40999     host nodew-ssd
>  18  0.20000         osd.18           up  1.00000          1.00000
>   5  0.20999         osd.5            up  1.00000          1.00000
> - -10  0.40997     host nodev-ssd
>  19  0.21999         osd.19           up  1.00000          1.00000
>  10  0.18999         osd.10           up  1.00000          1.00000
> - -11  0.40999     host nodezz-ssd
>   7  0.20999         osd.7            up  1.00000          1.00000
>  20  0.20000         osd.20           up  1.00000          1.00000
> - -12  0.40999     host nodey-ssd
>  22  0.20000         osd.22           up  1.00000          1.00000
>   8  0.20999         osd.8            up  1.00000          1.00000
> - -13  0.41998     host nodex-ssd
>  23  0.20999         osd.23           up  1.00000          1.00000
>   1  0.20999         osd.1            up  1.00000          1.00000
> - -14  0.40999     host nodez-ssd
>   6  0.20999         osd.6            up  1.00000          1.00000
>  21  0.20000         osd.21           up  1.00000          1.00000
>  -1 21.71997 root default
>  -2  3.64000     host nodez
>   0  3.64000         osd.0            up  1.00000          1.00000
>  -3  3.57999     host nodew
>   9  3.57999         osd.9            up  1.00000          1.00000
>  -4  3.64000     host nodex
>   2  3.64000         osd.2            up  1.00000          1.00000
>  -5  3.64000     host nodey
>   3  3.64000         osd.3            up  1.00000          1.00000
>  -6  3.64000     host nodezz
>   4  3.64000         osd.4            up  1.00000          1.00000
>  -7  3.57999     host nodev
>  24  3.57999         osd.24           up  1.00000          1.00000
>
> # ceph osd crush rule dump
> [
>     {
>         "rule_id": 0,
>         "rule_name": "replicated_ruleset",
>         "ruleset": 0,
>         "type": 1,
>         "min_size": 1,
>         "max_size": 10,
>         "steps": [
>             {
>                 "op": "take",
>                 "item": -1,
>                 "item_name": "default"
>             },
>             {
>                 "op": "chooseleaf_firstn",
>                 "num": 0,
>                 "type": "host"
>             },
>             {
>                 "op": "emit"
>             }
>         ]
>     },
>     {
>         "rule_id": 1,
>         "rule_name": "ssd-tier",
>         "ruleset": 1,
>         "type": 1,
>         "min_size": 1,
>         "max_size": 10,
>         "steps": [
>             {
>                 "op": "take",
>                 "item": -9,
>                 "item_name": "ssd"
>             },
>             {
>                 "op": "chooseleaf_firstn",
>                 "num": 0,
>                 "type": "host"
>             },
>             {
>                 "op": "emit"
>             }
>         ]
>     }
> ]
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> Robert LeBlanc
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>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Christian Balzer  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Having run into this myself two days ago (setting relative sizing values
>> doesn't flush things when expected) I'd say that the documentation is
>> highly misleading when it comes to the relative settings.
>>
>> And unclear when it comes to the size/object settings.
>>
>> Guess this section needs at least one nice red paragraph and some further
>> explanations.
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:33:30 -0600 Robert LeBlanc wrote:
>>
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>>> One more question. Is max_{bytes,objects} before or after replication
>>> factor?
>>> - ----------------
>>> Robert LeBlanc
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>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:42 PM, LOPEZ Jean-Charles  wrote:
>>> > Hi Robert,
>>> >
>>> > yes they do.
>>> >
>>> > Pools don’t have a size when you create them hence the couple
>>> > value/ratio that is to be defined for cache tiering mechanism. Pool
>>> > only have a number of PGs assigned. So setting the max values and the
>>> > ratios for dirty and full must be set explicitly to match your
>>> > configuration.
>>> >
>>> > Note that you can at the same time define max_bytes and max_objects.
>>> > The first of the 2 values that breaches using your ratio settings will
>>> > trigger eviction and/or flushing. The ratios you choose apply to both
>>> > values.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> > JC
>>> >
>>> >> On 15 Oct 2015, at 15:02, Robert LeBlanc  wrote:
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>>> >> hmmm...
>>> >>
>>> >> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/cache-tiering/#relative-sizing
>>> >>
>>> >> makes it sound like it should be based on the size of the pool and
>>> >> that you don't have to set anything like max bytes/objects. Can you
>>> >> confirm that cache_target_{dirty,dirty_high,full}_ratio works as a
>>> >> ratio of target_max_bytes set?
>>> >> - ----------------
>>> >> Robert LeBlanc
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>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Nick Fisk  wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> >>>> Behalf Of Robert LeBlanc
>>> >>>> Sent: 15 October 2015 22:06
>>> >>>> To: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >>>> Subject:  Cache Tiering Question
>>> >>>>
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>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ceph df (ceph version 0.94.3-252-g629b631
>>> >>>> (629b631488f044150422371ac77dfc005f3de1bc)) is showing some odd
>>> >>>> results:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> root@nodez:~# ceph df
>>> >>>> GLOBAL:
>>> >>>>    SIZE       AVAIL      RAW USED     %RAW USED
>>> >>>>    24518G     21670G        1602G          6.53
>>> >>>> POOLS:
>>> >>>>    NAME         ID     USED      %USED     MAX AVAIL     OBJECTS
>>> >>>>    rbd          0      2723G     11.11         6380G     1115793
>>> >>>>    ssd-pool     2          0         0          732G           1
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The rbd pool is showing 11.11% used, but if you calculate the
>>> >>>> numbers
>>> >>> there
>>> >>>> it is 2723/6380=42.68%.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have a feeling that the percentage is based on the amount used of
>>> >>> the total cluster size. Ie 2723/24518
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Will this cause problems with the relative cache tier settings? Do
>>> >>>> I need
>>> >>> to set
>>> >>>> the percentage based on what Ceph is reporting here?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The flushing/eviction thresholds are based on the target_max_bytes
>>> >>> number that you set, they have nothing to do with the underlying
>>> >>> pool size. It's up to you to come up with a sane number for this
>>> >>> variable.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>> - ----------------
>>> >>>> Robert LeBlanc
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>> Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer
>> chibi@xxxxxxx           Global OnLine Japan/Fusion Communications
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