Re: Cache Tiering Question

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015, Robert LeBlanc wrote:
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> I started another fio test to one of the same RBDs (leaving the hung
> ones still hung) and it is working OK, but the hungs ones are still
> just hung.

There is a full-disk failsafe that is still somewhat buggy that could 
explain the hung requests (if they were writes and submitted while the 
osd(s) were near full).

sage


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> Robert LeBlanc
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> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Robert LeBlanc  wrote:
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> > OK, I've set this up and now all I/O is locked up. I've reduced
> > target_max_bytes because one OSD was reporting 97% usage, there was
> > some I/O for a few seconds as things flushed, but client I/O is still
> > blocked. Anyone have some thoughts?
> >
> > ceph osd crush rule create-simple ssd-tier ssd host firstn
> > ceph osd pool create ssd-pool 128 replicated ssd-tier
> > ceph osd tier add rbd ssd-pool
> > ceph osd tier cache-mode ssd-pool writeback
> > ceph osd tier set-overlay rbd ssd-pool
> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool hit_set_type bloom
> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool hit_set_count 6
> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool hit_set_period 600
> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool min_read_recency_for_promote 6
> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool cache_target_dirty_ratio 0.4
> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool cache_target_full_ratio 0.8
> > ceph osd pool set ssd-pool target_max_bytes 795642691584
> >
> > ceph version 0.94.3-252-g629b631 (629b631488f044150422371ac77dfc005f3de1bc)
> >
> > # ceph status
> >     cluster 050309fd-723e-42aa-9624-3b3e033ab359
> >      health HEALTH_OK
> >      monmap e1: 1 mons at {nodez=192.168.55.15:6789/0}
> >             election epoch 2, quorum 0 nodez
> >      osdmap e1333: 18 osds: 18 up, 18 in
> >       pgmap v87157: 384 pgs, 2 pools, 3326 GB data, 1368 kobjects
> >             3010 GB used, 20262 GB / 24518 GB avail
> >                  384 active+clean
> >
> > # ceph osd df
> > ID WEIGHT  REWEIGHT SIZE   USE    AVAIL  %USE  VAR
> > 18 0.20000  1.00000   208G   135G 64764M 64.63 4.77
> >  5 0.20999  1.00000   210G   181G 18392M 86.36 6.38
> > 19 0.21999  1.00000   208G   161G 37941M 77.17 5.70
> > 10 0.18999  1.00000   210G   167G 32712M 79.70 5.89
> >  7 0.20999  1.00000   210G   181G 18405M 86.35 6.38
> > 20 0.20000  1.00000   208G   119G 80247M 57.39 4.24
> > 22 0.20000  1.00000   208G 87596M   112G 40.95 3.02
> >  8 0.20999  1.00000   210G   170G 29422M 81.23 6.00
> > 23 0.20999  1.00000   208G   151G 47404M 72.75 5.37
> >  1 0.20999  1.00000   210G   105G 96245M 50.17 3.71
> >  6 0.20999  1.00000   210G   131G 69937M 62.40 4.61
> > 21 0.20000  1.00000   208G   192G  5667M 92.26 6.81
> >  0 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   231G  3249G  6.32 0.47
> >  9 3.57999  1.00000  3667G   262G  3219G  7.15 0.53
> >  2 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   273G  3207G  7.47 0.55
> >  3 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   256G  3224G  6.99 0.52
> >  4 3.64000  1.00000  3667G   239G  3241G  6.54 0.48
> > 24 3.57999  1.00000  3667G   272G  3208G  7.42 0.55
> >               TOTAL 24518G  3320G 19952G 13.54
> > MIN/MAX VAR: 0.47/6.81  STDDEV: 48.64
> >
> > After dropping target_max_bytes to 644470580183:
> > # ceph df
> > GLOBAL:
> >     SIZE       AVAIL      RAW USED     %RAW USED
> >     24518G     20241G        3031G         12.36
> > POOLS:
> >     NAME         ID     USED      %USED     MAX AVAIL     OBJECTS
> >     rbd          0      2856G     11.65         6379G     1158862
> >     ssd-pool     3       470G      1.92          162G      242140
> > # ceph osd df
> > ID WEIGHT  REWEIGHT SIZE   USE     AVAIL   %USE  VAR
> > 18 0.20000  1.00000   208G    116G  83987M 55.64 4.50
> >  5 0.20999  1.00000   210G    151G  49392M 71.95 5.82
> > 19 0.21999  1.00000   208G    134G  65792M 64.15 5.19
> > 10 0.18999  1.00000   210G    138G  61961M 66.11 5.35
> >  7 0.20999  1.00000   210G    149G  50672M 71.36 5.77
> > 20 0.20000  1.00000   208G 101842M 101167M 47.61 3.85
> > 22 0.20000  1.00000   208G  72511M    127G 33.90 2.74
> >  8 0.20999  1.00000   210G    145G  55381M 69.17 5.59
> > 23 0.20999  1.00000   208G    127G  72305M 61.11 4.94
> >  1 0.20999  1.00000   210G  95656M    105G 44.46 3.60
> >  6 0.20999  1.00000   210G    109G  92154M 52.07 4.21
> > 21 0.20000  1.00000   208G    158G  40521M 75.97 6.14
> >  0 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    231G   3249G  6.32 0.51
> >  9 3.57999  1.00000  3667G    262G   3219G  7.15 0.58
> >  2 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    273G   3207G  7.47 0.60
> >  3 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    256G   3224G  6.99 0.57
> >  4 3.64000  1.00000  3667G    239G   3241G  6.54 0.53
> > 24 3.57999  1.00000  3667G    272G   3208G  7.42 0.60
> >               TOTAL 24518G   3031G  20241G 12.36
> > MIN/MAX VAR: 0.51/6.14  STDDEV: 39.87
> >
> > # ceph osd tree
> > ID  WEIGHT   TYPE NAME           UP/DOWN REWEIGHT PRIMARY-AFFINITY
> >  -9  2.46991 root ssd
> >  -8  0.40999     host nodew-ssd
> >  18  0.20000         osd.18           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >   5  0.20999         osd.5            up  1.00000          1.00000
> > - -10  0.40997     host nodev-ssd
> >  19  0.21999         osd.19           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >  10  0.18999         osd.10           up  1.00000          1.00000
> > - -11  0.40999     host nodezz-ssd
> >   7  0.20999         osd.7            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >  20  0.20000         osd.20           up  1.00000          1.00000
> > - -12  0.40999     host nodey-ssd
> >  22  0.20000         osd.22           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >   8  0.20999         osd.8            up  1.00000          1.00000
> > - -13  0.41998     host nodex-ssd
> >  23  0.20999         osd.23           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >   1  0.20999         osd.1            up  1.00000          1.00000
> > - -14  0.40999     host nodez-ssd
> >   6  0.20999         osd.6            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >  21  0.20000         osd.21           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >  -1 21.71997 root default
> >  -2  3.64000     host nodez
> >   0  3.64000         osd.0            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >  -3  3.57999     host nodew
> >   9  3.57999         osd.9            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >  -4  3.64000     host nodex
> >   2  3.64000         osd.2            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >  -5  3.64000     host nodey
> >   3  3.64000         osd.3            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >  -6  3.64000     host nodezz
> >   4  3.64000         osd.4            up  1.00000          1.00000
> >  -7  3.57999     host nodev
> >  24  3.57999         osd.24           up  1.00000          1.00000
> >
> > # ceph osd crush rule dump
> > [
> >     {
> >         "rule_id": 0,
> >         "rule_name": "replicated_ruleset",
> >         "ruleset": 0,
> >         "type": 1,
> >         "min_size": 1,
> >         "max_size": 10,
> >         "steps": [
> >             {
> >                 "op": "take",
> >                 "item": -1,
> >                 "item_name": "default"
> >             },
> >             {
> >                 "op": "chooseleaf_firstn",
> >                 "num": 0,
> >                 "type": "host"
> >             },
> >             {
> >                 "op": "emit"
> >             }
> >         ]
> >     },
> >     {
> >         "rule_id": 1,
> >         "rule_name": "ssd-tier",
> >         "ruleset": 1,
> >         "type": 1,
> >         "min_size": 1,
> >         "max_size": 10,
> >         "steps": [
> >             {
> >                 "op": "take",
> >                 "item": -9,
> >                 "item_name": "ssd"
> >             },
> >             {
> >                 "op": "chooseleaf_firstn",
> >                 "num": 0,
> >                 "type": "host"
> >             },
> >             {
> >                 "op": "emit"
> >             }
> >         ]
> >     }
> > ]
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> > Robert LeBlanc
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> >
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Christian Balzer  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Having run into this myself two days ago (setting relative sizing values
> >> doesn't flush things when expected) I'd say that the documentation is
> >> highly misleading when it comes to the relative settings.
> >>
> >> And unclear when it comes to the size/object settings.
> >>
> >> Guess this section needs at least one nice red paragraph and some further
> >> explanations.
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:33:30 -0600 Robert LeBlanc wrote:
> >>
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> >>> One more question. Is max_{bytes,objects} before or after replication
> >>> factor?
> >>> - ----------------
> >>> Robert LeBlanc
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> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:42 PM, LOPEZ Jean-Charles  wrote:
> >>> > Hi Robert,
> >>> >
> >>> > yes they do.
> >>> >
> >>> > Pools don?t have a size when you create them hence the couple
> >>> > value/ratio that is to be defined for cache tiering mechanism. Pool
> >>> > only have a number of PGs assigned. So setting the max values and the
> >>> > ratios for dirty and full must be set explicitly to match your
> >>> > configuration.
> >>> >
> >>> > Note that you can at the same time define max_bytes and max_objects.
> >>> > The first of the 2 values that breaches using your ratio settings will
> >>> > trigger eviction and/or flushing. The ratios you choose apply to both
> >>> > values.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheers
> >>> > JC
> >>> >
> >>> >> On 15 Oct 2015, at 15:02, Robert LeBlanc  wrote:
> >>> >>
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> >>> >> hmmm...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/cache-tiering/#relative-sizing
> >>> >>
> >>> >> makes it sound like it should be based on the size of the pool and
> >>> >> that you don't have to set anything like max bytes/objects. Can you
> >>> >> confirm that cache_target_{dirty,dirty_high,full}_ratio works as a
> >>> >> ratio of target_max_bytes set?
> >>> >> - ----------------
> >>> >> Robert LeBlanc
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> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Nick Fisk  wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >>>> From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>> >>>> Behalf Of Robert LeBlanc
> >>> >>>> Sent: 15 October 2015 22:06
> >>> >>>> To: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>>> Subject:  Cache Tiering Question
> >>> >>>>
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> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> ceph df (ceph version 0.94.3-252-g629b631
> >>> >>>> (629b631488f044150422371ac77dfc005f3de1bc)) is showing some odd
> >>> >>>> results:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> root@nodez:~# ceph df
> >>> >>>> GLOBAL:
> >>> >>>>    SIZE       AVAIL      RAW USED     %RAW USED
> >>> >>>>    24518G     21670G        1602G          6.53
> >>> >>>> POOLS:
> >>> >>>>    NAME         ID     USED      %USED     MAX AVAIL     OBJECTS
> >>> >>>>    rbd          0      2723G     11.11         6380G     1115793
> >>> >>>>    ssd-pool     2          0         0          732G           1
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> The rbd pool is showing 11.11% used, but if you calculate the
> >>> >>>> numbers
> >>> >>> there
> >>> >>>> it is 2723/6380=42.68%.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I have a feeling that the percentage is based on the amount used of
> >>> >>> the total cluster size. Ie 2723/24518
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Will this cause problems with the relative cache tier settings? Do
> >>> >>>> I need
> >>> >>> to set
> >>> >>>> the percentage based on what Ceph is reporting here?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The flushing/eviction thresholds are based on the target_max_bytes
> >>> >>> number that you set, they have nothing to do with the underlying
> >>> >>> pool size. It's up to you to come up with a sane number for this
> >>> >>> variable.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Thanks,
> >>> >>>> - ----------------
> >>> >>>> Robert LeBlanc
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> >> --
> >> Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer
> >> chibi@xxxxxxx           Global OnLine Japan/Fusion Communications
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