Re: Ceph librbd caching implementation development

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 8:55 PM Spencer Melnick <smelnick97@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> Thank you for the reply. Based on testing several different options, I
> believe that the modification is occurring due to the page cache.
>
> Running our test program initially produces read requests at the
> ImageCache level.
> A second run of the test program produces no read requests in
> ImageCache; however, by flushing the page cache using
>
> sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
>
> and re-running the test program we again see read requests in ImageCache.
> Checking the scheduler for our virtual block device, nbd0 via
>
> cat /sys/block/nbd0/queue/scheduler
>
> produces [none].
> Likewise,
>
> cat /sys/block/nbd0/queue/read_ahead_kb
>
> produces 0.
> Because of this I am assuming that the sole modification of the
> requests is due to the page cache.
> To fix this, we've attempted to mount the virtual block device both
> with and without the -osync flag, and modifying the test program to
> read a file using the O_DIRECT flag, but neither seems to have any
> effect.
>
> I apologize, as this is somewhat unrelated to Ceph, but do you know of
> any other methods to disable the page cache, if possible solely for
> the virtual block device?

I would have expected that if you open the "/dev/nbdX" block device w/
the O_DIRECT flag, all subsequent reads and writes would bypass the
page cache.

>
> Thanks,
> -----------
> Spencer Melnick
>
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:04 AM Jason Dillaman <jdillama@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 7:00 PM Spencer Melnick <smelnick97@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I am currently working on implementing a custom caching algorithm in
> > > Ceph's librbd using the ImageCache interface, but I have found that
> > > not all of the requests we expect are being processed by the
> > > ImageCache::aio_read() function.
> > >
> > > Specifically, when we create a rbd image, map it to an nbd device, and
> > > mount this device on a Linux filesystem, we run a series of file read
> > > requests to test the algorithm. However, we find that the number of
> > > requests dispatched to ImageCache::aio_read() is not the same as the
> > > number of requests made by our test program.
> > >
> > > Normally this would not be a problem; however, our algorithm relies on
> > > having a complete data stream to perform some predictive caching. Is
> > > there some kind of caching happening at a higher level of Ceph that
> > > must be turned off first?
> >
> > If you are using rbd-nbd (via the nbd block device), then I suspect
> > you are just seeing the Linux kernel IO scheduler and/or page cache
> > altering your requests. From the point of view of rbd-nbd, any read
> > request received from the kernel will be passed unmodified to
> > "ImageCache::aio_read".
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -----------
> > > Spencer Melnick
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jason



-- 
Jason



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