Re: civetweb upstream/downstream divergence

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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, Ken Dreyer wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Ken Dreyer <kdreyer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:22 AM, Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Nathan Cutler wrote:
> >>> IMHO the first step should be to get rid of the evil submodule. Arguably
> >>> the most direct path leading to this goal is to simply package up the
> >>> downstream civetweb (i.e. 1.6 plus all the downstream patches) for all
> >>> the supported distros. The resulting package would be Ceph-specific,
> >>> obviously, so it could be called "civetweb-ceph".
> >>>
> >>> Like Ken says, the upstreaming effort can continue in parallel.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure I agree.  As long as everything is not upstream and we are
> >> running a fork, what is the value of having it in a separate package?
> >> That just means all of the effort of managing the package dependency and
> >> making sure it is in all of the appropriate distros (and similar pain for
> >> those building manually) without any of the benefits (upstream bug fixes,
> >> etc.).
> >
> > I think there's value in getting the packaging bits ready ahead of
> > time and letting those "bake in" in Fedora/Ubuntu/Debian/SUSE while we
> > continue to merge Ceph's civetweb changes to Civetweb upstream.
> >
> > Now that Civetweb with RGW is mainstream, I'm looking forward to
> > eventually using a pre-built civetweb package that can shave time off
> > our Ceph Gitbuilder/Jenkins runs :)
> 
> Oh, I just re-read this, and Nathan's proposing to package up
> "civetweb-ceph" as a fork... I'm not sure that's worth it (at least,
> speaking for packaging in Fedora).
> 
> When I was talking about a "parallel effort", what I meant is that
> we'd get vanilla civetweb upstream into the distros, and we'd also
> continue to bundle civetweb in Ceph, until we can reliably use the
> upstream Civetweb package.

Ah, this sounds better to me.  There may be some work to build civetweb as 
a shared library (currently it's just a statically linked module) but 
probably not too bad.

sage
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