I've been using tbsm instead of startx, personally. It lets me pic what
session I want from a console login
On 5/6/23 10:48, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
I want to endorse the notion of logging in on a console terminal before
launching anything and everything else, including the graphical
environment.
One strong advantage is more control if and when things go wrong--though
I haven't had to deal with that in a long time.
I personally use startx to launch my graphical environment.
But, I also use an openvt script to launch my additional 23 console
environments. Yes, I have 24 consoles, which are easily accessed by
noting that the older keymap file treated the left alt key differently
from the right alt key. That has recently changed by default, so one
needs to fix that if one really wants more than 12 consoles by default.
PS: In order to get the user I want in each console I've found it
necessary to keep the openvt script in my /root folder but to launch it
as my ordinary user using sudo, e.g.
sudo /root/<script>
Benefit: Login once, two quick commands open a gui environment and 23
more consoles. Now I can predictably do specific tasks in the same
specific console.
PPS: I always smile when I hear some GUI dependent user say, as I hear
them say at least once a week on some teleconference: "Wait, wait, I
lost my window." I never lose my consoles.
Best,
Janina
Linux for blind general discussion writes:
Two more advantages to starting up in console mode then using startx to
access the graphical environment.
You don't have to do initial login in graphical mode and second is if
graphical mode develops a problem you can still login in console and get a
chance to fix the problem. Graphical user login if a problem develops,
it's time to reinstall the system if the problem prevents login.
-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
there are probably also several other screen reader, options for the consul/terminal. When did I have found most useful is BRLTTY. It’s probably one of the oldest of the lot and it still works. Now, as for the graphical user interface, I’ve been in the habit of actually starting up in Consol mode first and then running STARTX. It’s easy it’s simple and you don’t have to worry about a display manager. A also, you don’t have to worry about a bunch of additional apps you may never use when running the display manager. So choose whichever desktop you want, which ever apps you want, and install those by whatever method is called for in your version of Linux.
Eric.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 27, 2023, at 07:39, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I find lightdm with lightdm-slick-greeter to be about the best display manager option. You should be able to start orca using alt+super+s from the display manager's window.
Fenrir is probably the most comprehensive fully userspace screen reader for text mode TTYs and terminals, meaning that it doesn't live in the kernel, although Orca works pretty well in mate-terminal. Personally though, I find that desktop web browsers and email applications work much better than their terminal counterparts, including being easier to set up, easier to navigate by various elements such as headers or links, and especially for browsers, supporting many more websites in a more accessible way. Just as an example of this, I have been able to access online banking through Firefox for coming up on 20 years, but none of the terminal-based browsers have ever allowed me to log into any bank's website, and many won't even show the login page correctly, not even in 2023.
~Kyle
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