..which makes stating that these are accessible incorrect.
These samples are in fact accessible, by the w3c's guidelines, not mine.
I stated that I have added fallback links to my own website, but this is
not a requirement for HTML5 accessibility as defined by the w3c's
accessibility working group, or at least not as far as I know. It's just
something I did because I wanted to include legacy support for older
browsers.
Linux exists in command line as well as gui. as someone else in a
different thread noted recently, they personally would not touch gui
again for the rest of their lives if given a choice. Meaning these
options are not universally available or accessible in Linux as a whole.
The fact that text-based browsers do not support HTML5 standards makes
them inaccessible and perhaps even unusable. There is nothing in the
world stopping them from becoming usable by today's standards, it would
seem that they just want to stay back in the 1990's. Music and video
players exist in text environments, offering nearly all the
functionality I get on a desktop. It's time for the browser to do the
same. Still, if my phone and my desktop environment can read it without
any issues, two out of three ain't all that bad. That said, I was not
attempting to start a flame war, as I mentioned the fallback possibility
as something that I do, but that the browsers I use hide those fallback
links, so I can't say whether or not this other website that I did not
write employs such links, which would make the samples available through
other browsers, but again is not at all a requirement to meet 2022's
accessibility guidelines as defined by people other than myself, which
incidentally includes people who as you say use text environments as
much as possible. But even those people must use what browsers are
designed to at least try to adhere to those guidelines, and like it or
not, even w3m does not comply with current HTML standards, and it's
about the best text browser available.
might as well say, please only be disabled as I personally define it,
writing accessible by your own dictionary and seemingly to project it on
to other people.
Not at all my intention. I didn't define the accessibility guidelines, I
only adhere to them to the best of my own abilities, and even took my
website's accessibility a major step further than I needed to in order
to accomodate the most people. How dare you put words into my mouth that
I never said, especially since I clearly said the opposite. And I don't
think that was the w3c's intention either.
Why not say from the outset, that the items are only available for some
Linux users?
Because that would be an outright lie. Everyone who runs a Linux
operating system has the choice to use Brave, Chromium, Google Chrome,
Firefox and a host of other standards-compliant browsers. Just because
you yourself made the choice not to use them does not mean that they are
not available should you choose one of them. There are even ways around
the whole desktop environment and screen display thing, using xvfb I
think it's called with dummy display output and a very small window
manager that just runs your screen reader and browser and otherwise
stays completely out of the way. Again, it's about personal choice, but
more about needing the ability to choose a text-mode browser that can
handle the simplest HTML5 audio standard, and at least enough JavaScript
to be able to handle basic things like banking and shopping without
choking and either crashing or sending me to a blank screen or back to
the login page as if my credentials were incorrect. The fact is that
text browsers can't even handle HTML4 correctly, as they don't know how
to handle something as simple as headers in most cases. At the very
least, keyboard header navigation would be a step in the right
direction. But again, this is not my fault, nor the fault of modern
website developers. This is a lack of standards compliance among
text-mode browsers. Nothing more, nothing less.
~Kyle
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