On the numpad, insert-enter toggles espeak off and on. On Thu, 16 Dec 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Just as a follow up, I've gone back through the guided installer and it works > flawlessly. However, I'm not finding the documentation to toggle espeaku's > speech output. It's not an issue when the system's installed, but it is very, > very chatty when installing so I was hoping to be able to turn the speech off > for a few moments. Other than that, the installer's getting tweaks and > updates, November's didn't give you the choice between Pipewire/Pulseaudio (or > null if you are doing a base install) or the swap option. I'm keen to see > where the guided installer goes, it makes getting an Arch system up and going > easier now > > On 12/15/21 20:55, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > Worked like a champ. The on,ly thing I was confused about was the disk > > selection. After selecting the fdisk you are still at disk selection step > > which you can just press enter to continue as the disk you chose at the > > first promped it is alreafdy selected, but this is not spoken by orca > > however just keep this in mind. Also, the desktop selection went fine. I > > selected alsa-utils, espeakup, firefox and thunderbird and everything else > > went fine at least in my vm which is using UEFI. > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > On 12/14/2021 7:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> Once you boot the ISO with speech (which is down once on the boot menu, so > >> just down and enter then wait), and it logs you in and you get the > >> root@archiso prompt just type archinstall and it'll do a connection test > >> then come up with the guided installer. > >> > >> 99% of it is intuitive. I've not got around to testing the install option > >> for desktops. I personally go with a base instal and customize my system as > >> needed, but YMMV on that one. The only bit that tripped me up was the > >> region selection (second step) and the disk selection since that changed to > >> where you select your disk, then don't select anything to continue. It > >> walks you through the steps one at a time, and if you know how to install > >> Arch accessibly, the extra packages step is the same as pacstrap. > >> > >> Few things to note: > >> > >> 1. It auto enables espeakup if it's installed (I usually install it out of > >> habit) > >> > >> 2. I'm not sure of the keys to shut espeakup off however... > >> > >> And the big, big one. The last I checked, November. It only workd on UEFI > >> machines /but/ that might have been changed. I honestly don't know if it's > >> working on legacy BIOS machines > >> > >> Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> > >>> Is this guided installer part of the arch iso? If so, how do you get it > >>> going?? I would like to give this a test and see how this works. > >>> > >>> > >>> Matthew > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 12/14/2021 7:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>>> ell there's a history of posts as far as Jenux breaking with people way > >>>> more qualified than me digging through the code and having things break > >>>> on their installs. I've personally had Jenux corrupt a flash drive to the > >>>> point it's a glorified paprweight due to shenanigans with writing to it. > >>>> > >>>> That being said. Now Arch itself has the guided mode installer, which is > >>>> perfectly useable with espeakup and that once installed, as of this month > >>>> auto enables speech/braille at the end of the install, I'd argue Arch are > >>>> doing a better job at making their systems accessible* than people assume > >>>> though. I;d also say okay, Arch has a guided installer that works** and > >>>> if booted with accessibility on, keeps those settings and gives you a > >>>> working (base, mind) system out of the box. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> * Provided you install alsa-utils/espeakup as per a normal accessibility > >>>> Arch install. There's a step in the guided installer where it asks for > >>>> extra packages, that's where you plug alsa-utils/espeakup in. > >>>> espeakup.service gets auto enabled at the end of the install as part of > >>>> the installer > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ** Works, as long as you're okay with a base install but getting a DE up > >>>> and running isn't that bad really once you did the install. I've not got > >>>> the desktop ones to work currently but still poking at it. I'm tempted to > >>>> add in orca-speech-dispatcher and so forth into the extra packages step. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> at that however. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 12/14/21 12:46, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I did use the latest as of about 15 hours ago. I did also verify the > >>>>> iso. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The issue this time is that after running the installer and rebooting, > >>>>> nothing spoke. the seeingAI on the iphone could read the screen just > >>>>> fine, but I couldn't > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Last time it was orca in Mate that didn't want to come on, no matter > >>>>> what I do. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I found that with Jenux, never expect the same thing to go wrong twice, > >>>>> however something will break. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Warm regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Brandt > >>>>> > >>>>> On 2021/12/14 14:31, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>>>>> Jenux gets regular updates latest is 2021.11.17 unless that changed > >>>>>> today. > >>>>>> Did you verify your iso download? If I find an .sha512 file file for > >>>>>> an > >>>>>> iso, I won't install the iso without first verifying it with the > >>>>>> .sha512 > >>>>>> file. So two potential problems not using current Jenux install iso or > >>>>>> failed to verify iso. If you don't have those two problems, please > >>>>>> write > >>>>>> dnl.nash@xxxxxxxxx and let him know the problem you encountered on your > >>>>>> install fail. That one is the developer. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jenux failed on me, again. I think I'll give it a skip for now, that > >>>>>>> is unless > >>>>>>> the dev actually fixes the thing. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am on Fedora, for now, because it was the nearest Usb stick I could > >>>>>>> grab > >>>>>>> quickly. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I might just give the vanilla Arch ISO another go. Why not? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2021/12/14 13:05, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>>>>>>> or Manjaro Architect. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Personally. I've had success with the vanilla Arch ISO and the guided > >>>>>>>> installer (the archinstall one), I just set it to boot up talking, > >>>>>>>> went > >>>>>>>> through it and added in alsa-utils/espeakup and then put > >>>>>>>> speech-dispatcher/Orca/voices and a window manager on once the system > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> installed. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jenux has never really worked for me on a VM or bare metal at all, > >>>>>>>> whereas > >>>>>>>> the official arch ISO is working rather well, and I dunno if the > >>>>>>>> Architect > >>>>>>>> edition is 36/64 bit or 32bit only or 64bit only. Admittedly, I've > >>>>>>>> got a > >>>>>>>> 64bit UEFI system so the official ISo works flawlessly on it however, > >>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>> YMMV on that oneYes, but you probably don't want to hear it if you > >>>>>>>> are set > >>>>>>>> on using Jenux however. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 12/14/21 09:18, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I decided to give Jenux another go, last time, no matter what I > >>>>>>>>> tried, I > >>>>>>>>> couldn't get orca to come on after logging in to the system. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any advice? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Also, if this doesn't work out, is there a guide for doing a Manjaro > >>>>>>>>> architect install? "Manjaro Talking" got updated a little while ago, > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> if, as I said, Jenux doesn't work out, I'd like to give that one a > >>>>>>>>> go. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks so long. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Warm regards, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sent from my MacBook Air > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Contact: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Phone: +27 (0)60 525 9181 <tel://+27605259181> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Email: brandt.steenkamp@xxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>> <mailto:brandt.steenkamp@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp <http://www.twitter.com/brandtsteenkamp> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>>>>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>>>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Blinux-list mailing list > >>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list