Re: Attempting a Jenux install, again.

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Hi,


Is this guided installer part of the arch iso?  If so, how do you get it going??  I would like to give this a test and see how this works.


Matthew



On 12/14/2021 7:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
ell there's a history of posts as far as Jenux breaking with people way more qualified than me digging through the code and having things break on their installs. I've personally had Jenux corrupt a flash drive to the point it's a glorified paprweight due to shenanigans with writing to it.

That being said. Now Arch itself has the guided mode installer, which is perfectly useable with espeakup and that once installed, as of this month auto enables speech/braille at the end of the install, I'd argue Arch are doing a better job at making their systems accessible* than people assume though. I;d also say okay, Arch has a guided installer that works** and if booted with accessibility on, keeps those settings and gives you a working (base, mind) system out of the box.


* Provided you install alsa-utils/espeakup as per a normal accessibility Arch install. There's a step in the guided installer where it asks for extra packages, that's where you plug alsa-utils/espeakup in. espeakup.service gets auto enabled at the end of the install as part of the installer


** Works, as long as you're okay with a base install but getting a DE up and running isn't that bad really once you did the install. I've not got the desktop ones to work currently but still poking at it. I'm tempted to add in orca-speech-dispatcher and so forth into the extra packages step.


at that however.


On 12/14/21 12:46, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Hi,


I did use the latest as of about 15 hours ago. I did also verify the iso.


The issue this time is that after running the installer and rebooting, nothing spoke. the seeingAI on the iphone could read the screen just fine, but I couldn't


Last time it was orca in Mate that didn't want to come on, no matter what I do.


I found that with Jenux, never expect the same thing to go wrong twice, however something will break.


Warm regards,


Brandt

On 2021/12/14 14:31, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Jenux gets regular updates latest is 2021.11.17 unless that changed today. Did you verify your iso download?  If I find an .sha512 file file for an iso, I won't install the iso without first verifying it with the .sha512
file.  So two potential problems not using current Jenux install iso or
failed to verify iso.  If you don't have those two problems, please write
dnl.nash@xxxxxxxxx and let him know the problem you encountered on your
install fail.  That one is the developer.


On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:

Hi,


Jenux failed on me, again. I think I'll give it a skip for now, that is unless
the dev actually fixes the thing.


I am on Fedora, for now, because it was the nearest Usb stick I could grab
quickly.


I might just give the vanilla Arch ISO another go. Why not?

On 2021/12/14 13:05, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
  or Manjaro Architect.

Personally. I've had success with the vanilla Arch ISO and the guided
installer (the archinstall one), I just set it to boot up talking, went
through it and added in alsa-utils/espeakup and then put
speech-dispatcher/Orca/voices and a window manager on once the system was
installed.


Jenux has never really worked for me on a VM or bare metal at all, whereas the official arch ISO is working rather well, and I dunno if the Architect edition is 36/64 bit or 32bit only or 64bit only. Admittedly, I've got a 64bit UEFI system so the official ISo works flawlessly on it however, but YMMV on that oneYes, but you probably don't want to hear it if you are set
on using Jenux however.

On 12/14/21 09:18, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Hi all,

I decided to give Jenux another go, last time, no matter what I tried, I
couldn't get orca to come on after logging in to the system.

Does anyone have any advice?

Also, if this doesn't work out, is there a guide for doing a Manjaro
architect install? "Manjaro Talking" got updated a little while ago, and if, as I said, Jenux doesn't work out, I'd like to give that one a go.

Thanks so long.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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