Re: removing speakup from memory?

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Practically every service runs as a different user so one service cannot be used to attack another service.


On 01/24/2015 06:36 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
wait.
why would the system create elements tied to those not actually using
the system?
Forgive my lack of information here, but would that not be a security risk?
If they were not created by me, who would create them?
I have no means for typing that command, but I am curious about the
concept.
Karen


On Sat, 24 Jan 2015, John G. Heim wrote:

Multi-user just means that each process  is owned by a user.  Some
user ID is tied to each process. Most of the processes are owned by
users you probably didn't create directly.   Examine the /etc/passwd
file to see all the users on your system.


On 01/24/2015 01:36 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
 Hi,
 Why would I have a multi user system?
 Oh wait I might know the answer to this one.
 no.  this box was built for me, I have an admin password, and I am the
 only user.  Something I have done once from the computer itself.  No
ssh
 this time, I have no idea yet if the debian configuration on the
machine
 even supports dsl.
 I will be turning it on to find out.
 I will want to turn it off again  when I am through, so thanks for all
 the  prospects.
 While Halt seems  like the most fun, better to just try shutdown -h.
 Thanks,
 Karen


 On Sat, 24 Jan 2015, Tim Chase wrote:

>  On January 24, 2015, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >  what is the keystroke  for leaving Linux basically to shut down the
> >  computer?
> >  Unlike DOS, i understand you cannot just turn off the machine.
> >  Depending on how new the computer is, you can usually just hit the
>  power button to initiate a shutdown (as opposed to holding it in for
>  3-5 seconds which does a hard power-off).  The press (rather than
>  press-and-hold) sends a shutdown signal to the operating system.
> >  If you want to initiate it from the command-line or over SSH,
you can
>  usually use one of "halt", "reboot", or "shutdown".  You might have
>  to prefix it with "sudo" because on a multi-user system, it would be
>  rude to allow any old user to reboot it out from under other users.
>  I usually use "halt" to power down the machine, and "reboot" to,
>  well, reboot (that's rare).  The "shutdown" command allows for
>  additional options like sending messages to users that are logged in,
>  deferring the shutdown for a period of time, etc.
> >  So those are the graceful ways to shut down.
> >  That said, if you're running a modern vintage of Linux, it
should be
>  fairly robust to handling abrupt power-offs.  Mostly it boils down to
>  things that your software thinks has been written to the drive but
>  hasn't actually made it to the drive.  If you use a journaling
>  file-system (unless you're running a REALLY old version of Linux or
>  you intentionally chose EXT2 or a FAT partition type on installation,
>  you've likely have a journaling file-system since it's been the
>  default for years).  Also, if you have external drives like a USB
>  drive, you'd want to make sure that either it's set to write
>  synchronously or that you properly unmount it since it's usually a
>  FAT file-system which can lose data.
> >  And if you're booting off a live CD, doing all your work on the
>  internet, and not actually saving anything locally?  Feel free to
>  unceremoniously rip the cord from the wall since there's nothing that
>  won't be restored on a fresh boot.  Though I still usually just do a
>  regular shutdown out of habit. (grins)
> >  -tim
> > > > > >
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