Re: Linux GUI FAQ/tutorial?

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It's possible to learn to copy and paste text using the speakup clipboard and there's a good reason to learn that clipboard too. You can move stuff from beyond any confines of any editor. Position the cursor on the screen where you want it with speakup keys on the numpad and hit the slash key on the numpad and you've just set a mark. Next move the cursor either to the end of the screen or the end of your block and hit the star key just to the right of that slash key and speakup will say cut. Don't worry since nothing was cut in the sense windows uses that. What just happened was you marked the end of your block and all that text between the beginning and end of your text block is now in the speakup clipboard. Next find where you want to put the text and get there with the speakup cursor controls on the numpad and hit insert-slash both keys on the numpad and your text that's on the clipboard just got pasted where you put your cursor. Now this is interesting. If you use emacs, emacs does not get in the way of the speakup clipboard and its working but elvis and ed very definitely do and actually lock up. I've had to reboot the system more than once until I found me a useable editor.On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Octavian R?snita wrote:

Hi Trev,

From: <trev.saunders@xxxxxxxxx>
 Personally I prefer yasr to speakup, and like vim as an editor.  vi m
 works well with yasr, and is useable with speakup.

Well, maybe my espectations are wrong because they are based mostly on my Linux - cli experience in a SecureCRT console from Windows, but I was lost each time vi started as a default editor.

To be more specific, I would like to be able to use an editor that lets me to use the arrow keys to read the text line by line and word by word and char by char with up and down arrows, control+left and right arrows, or simply the left and right arrows, allow me to select the text using the shift key, selected text that can be read by the screen reader when I want to, to be able to copy/paste the text from a program into another with a simple combination of key, execute the currently open program source code with a specified interpreter that also offers me the possibility of specifying some parameters, find/replace using regular expressions with a simple combination of keys, and very few other things.

I ask if these are possible, because as I said, when vi was opened in an SSH console and I tried to use the arrow keys, I used to hear only some beep sounds, without beeing able to read anything, and instead of giving combinations of keys for exiting/saving like Control+S, Control+Q or something like that, I needed to type simple text commands like ":", which is very strange for a modern editor.

 I think by far the best option is mutt.

I guess mutt is accessible under Linux. I have tried a Windows version that had big accessibility issues.
Is mutt able to create/display html mail messages?
Can it group the messages by conversation? Can we define more folders and rules for moving the messages automaticly in those folders based on some conditions?
I guess the answer is yes, but I want to know what I should expect.

 agreed, bash makes a pretty excellent file manager.

Well, for some tasks yes. I would be very happy if Windows command prompt would have the features of bash. But for some tasks a file manager like Windows Explorer is much better, but it is good if there is one for Linux also.

However as I said, my biggest fear remains the text editor. Under Windows there is no text editor without issues. The best is TextPad, but it doesn't fully support UTF-8 which is very bad. I have tried tens of editors under Windows and all of them have issues, but under Linux I think I don't have so many editors to choose unfortunately.

Octavian


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