Hi, really? even alt sysRQ k won't kill the editor? I recognize that speakup running in kernel mode means that it can panic the whole kernel, but ... I don't use speakup much and don't use either of those editors. Trev > It's possible to learn to copy and paste text using the speakup clipboard > and there's a good reason to learn that clipboard too. You can move stuff > from beyond any confines of any editor. Position the cursor on the screen > where you want it with speakup keys on the numpad and hit the slash key on > the numpad and you've just set a mark. Next move the cursor either to the > end of the screen or the end of your block and hit the star key just to > the right of that slash key and speakup will say cut. Don't worry since > nothing was cut in the sense windows uses that. What just happened was > you marked the end of your block and all that text between the beginning > and end of your text block is now in the speakup clipboard. Next find > where you want to put the text and get there with the speakup cursor > controls on the numpad and hit insert-slash both keys on the numpad and > your text that's on the clipboard just got pasted where you put your > cursor. Now this is interesting. If you use emacs, emacs does not get in > the way of the speakup clipboard and its working but elvis and ed very > definitely do and actually lock up. I've had to reboot the system more > than once until I found me a useable editor.On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Octavian > R?snita wrote: > > > Hi Trev, > > > > From: <trev.saunders@xxxxxxxxx> > >> Personally I prefer yasr to speakup, and like vim as an editor. vi m > >> works well with yasr, and is useable with speakup. > > > > Well, maybe my espectations are wrong because they are based mostly on my > > Linux - cli experience in a SecureCRT console from Windows, but I was lost > > each time vi started as a default editor. > > > > To be more specific, I would like to be able to use an editor that lets me > to > > use the arrow keys to read the text line by line and word by word and char > by > > char with up and down arrows, control+left and right arrows, or simply the > > left and right arrows, allow me to select the text using the shift key, > > selected text that can be read by the screen reader when I want to, to be > > able to copy/paste the text from a program into another with a simple > > combination of key, execute the currently open program source code with a > > specified interpreter that also offers me the possibility of specifying som > e > > parameters, find/replace using regular expressions with a simple combinatio > n > > of keys, and very few other things. > > > > I ask if these are possible, because as I said, when vi was opened in an SS > H > > console and I tried to use the arrow keys, I used to hear only some beep > > sounds, without beeing able to read anything, and instead of giving > > combinations of keys for exiting/saving like Control+S, Control+Q or > > something like that, I needed to type simple text commands like ":", which > is > > very strange for a modern editor. > > > >> I think by far the best option is mutt. > > > > I guess mutt is accessible under Linux. I have tried a Windows version that > > > had big accessibility issues. > > Is mutt able to create/display html mail messages? > > Can it group the messages by conversation? Can we define more folders and > > rules for moving the messages automaticly in those folders based on some > > conditions? > > I guess the answer is yes, but I want to know what I should expect. > > > >> agreed, bash makes a pretty excellent file manager. > > > > Well, for some tasks yes. I would be very happy if Windows command prompt > > would have the features of bash. But for some tasks a file manager like > > Windows Explorer is much better, but it is good if there is one for Linux > > also. > > > > However as I said, my biggest fear remains the text editor. Under Windows > > there is no text editor without issues. The best is TextPad, but it doesn't > > > fully support UTF-8 which is very bad. > > I have tried tens of editors under Windows and all of them have issues, but > > > under Linux I think I don't have so many editors to choose unfortunately. > > > > Octavian > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list