Re: Linux GUI FAQ/tutorial?

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Râsnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: Linux GUI FAQ/tutorial?


Hi Trev,

From: <trev.saunders@xxxxxxxxx>
Personally I prefer yasr to speakup, and like vim as an editor. vi m works well with yasr, and is useable with speakup.

Well, maybe my espectations are wrong because they are based mostly on my Linux - cli experience in a SecureCRT console from Windows, but I was lost each time vi started as a default editor.

To be more specific, I would like to be able to use an editor that lets me to use the arrow keys to read the text line by line and word by word and char by char with up and down arrows, control+left and right arrows, or simply the left and right arrows, allow me to select the text using the shift key, selected text that can be read by the screen reader when I want to, to be able to copy/paste the text from a program into another with a simple combination of key, execute the currently open program source code with a specified interpreter that also offers me the possibility of specifying some parameters, find/replace using regular expressions with a simple combination of keys, and very few other things.

I ask if these are possible, because as I said, when vi was opened in an SSH console and I tried to use the arrow keys, I used to hear only some beep sounds, without beeing able to read anything, and instead of giving combinations of keys for exiting/saving like Control+S, Control+Q or something like that, I needed to type simple text commands like ":", which is very strange for a modern editor.

I think what you really want is a character based program for linux that works like Windows notepad. I asked around about something like that a couple of years ago and couldn't find anything. But gedit is pretty close if you're using gnome.

PS: Vi was invented way back when people were using 300 baud modems. There used to be religious wars between emacs users and vi users. I was an emacs user and I once complained about how unnatural vi's user interface was and somebody told me that it was because it worked really well when editing a file remotely. I'm not 100% sure that's true but his explanation made sense at the time.



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