That is strange, but X is the server required for all graphical applications, so it is not a desktop like gnome or kde, gnome or kde runs using X. What happens if you do startx? On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote: > HEllo! > My fedora 7 installed gnome and orca, without installing the x. > > I'm a bit comfused, is x a desktop environment of its own, or is x just a > server wich gnome and kde runs on? > > /Kristoffer > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willem van der Walt" <wvdwalt@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:41 PM > Subject: Re: starting gnome > > > > Gnome and X are two different things. If you try to install gnome, it > > would require you to install X as well. > > And you would then want to also install orca or I think its full name is > > gnome-orca. > > > > > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > Oh, I see. I didn't install the x server. > > > I thought that gnome and x was 2 different things. > > > > > > /Kristoffer > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rynhardt P Kruger" <rkruger@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:27 PM > > > Subject: Re: starting gnome > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Usually you start gnome when you start x11. You can start it with the > > > > "startx" command. > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > Rynhardt > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:58:59AM +0200, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > > > How do I start gnome? > > > > > > > > > > I've never found any entrance in it, my system just starts up in text > > > > > mode > > > > > by default. > > > > > I've installed the gnome desktop. and I would like to try out orca > > > > > with > > > > > braille in the meantime. I can't get ttsynth binaries for speakup, and > > > > > ttsynth-say to compile, so I figured out that I'll have a break, and > > > > > then > > > > > give it another try when I've calmed down a bit. > > > > > > > > > > /Kristoffer > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > Blinux-list mailing list > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail > > legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. > > The full disclaimer details can be found at > > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > > MailScanner, > > and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for > > their support. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support. _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list