Did this work on an earlier version of RedHat from what I've read it sounds like your tcl code is broken. Maybe you could down-grade to another version of TCL. You didn't make any changes to the TCL code (assuming that you had access to source) Subject: problems with emacspeak-16.0 and ViaVoice on redhat 8.0 Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com well, the subject line says it all. basically when I go to test the outloud speech server, I get this error. [root@borg servers]# tcl outloud Using /dev/sequencer, device 0 Sequencer Emu10k1::0 -- type 1 Error: couldn't load file "./linux-outloud/tcleci.so": ./linux-outloud/tcleci.so: undefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0 while executing "load $tclTTS/tcleci.so" (file "outloud" line 287) [root@borg servers]# any suggestions in this area would be greatly appreciated. I can't compile flite to use eflite because my compiler dies after trying to build one of the object files. I might look at trying to get the doubletalk pc to work with emacspeak. thanks in advance. -- Shaun Oliver "We're upgrading /dev/null"