Thanks to everyone for their suggestions I'm still working on a Linux way to copy the disk but TeleDisk in dos did the deed. When I find Linux way I will post it to the mailing list. To all the people who said I should stop using Linux and go with Emacspeak or the like you are of course 100% correct and I do use emacspeak as well as SVGATextMode however I'm not the only person using the computer and others need windows can't convert everyone but working on it. <OT ANGRY RANT> When I read my mail from the list this morning I nearly jumped off my chair with rage and here is the reason why somebody posted this I could be wrong, but I think backing up a key (authorization) disk is illegal, not to say immoral. YOU ARE VERY WRONG let me give you a scenario. Suppose a person has a bit of sheet music which they photocopy and it belongs to a great composer (who isn't dead) they have committed no crime. However if they try to sell this as their own work or play it in front of an audience without paying royalties then they have committed a crime. In short "nothings either good or bad but doing makes it so" MORALITY It is perfectly moral for me to protect my investment if my original key disk ever suffers from "floppy rot" I at least won't be completely screwed. Let me tell you what is immoral, the fact that key disks went out in the late 1980's and only the blind have to put up with this level of crap from the benevolent Access technology companies who are doing their best to Screw (sorry help) the poor blind computer users. Or even more immoral Billy boy's company writes an operating system on which they make 86% PROFIT and it is completely inaccessible except for a few gimmicks one of which recursively magnifies itself. If the access specialists want money let them go get subsidies from MS and stop screwing ordinary people. But his won't work because MS or the access providers don't give a flying F**K about providing proper access. Buy a new key disk. This is without doubt the most astonishing statement I have ever heard on this list or any list. I paid a lot of money for my software and I'm dammed if I'm going to pay a penny more because my floppy has rotted away in a box from old age. The thing that annoys me more than anything else about the disabled movement (in Ireland at any rate) is the all-pervasive apathy that exists with in it and the blind are by far the worst. This attitude of not upsetting the apple cart. Here is a common sentiment I have heard expressed over and over again "we are working with businesses to improve the situation for blind users." and translated it means "we are providing free consultancy to business who will only implement the things that make them money, provide no real access and make them look good for helping the poor blind people." That is why I joined this list and why I use Linux (why most people use Linux) because I don't just want to upset the apple cart I want to grab the reigns and ride down all the companies who refuse to provide proper access to their equipment with all the fury of a pissed off ring wrath (Nasgool) chasing some cheeky hobbits who had the temerity to keep a ring that wasn't theirs. </OT ANGRY RANT> _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list