On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:36:26PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > The three companies primarily responsible for inaccessibility are sun > microsystems for having invented java in the first place. Second netscape > for having innovated html and java. Third Microsoft for having innovated > everything else. *beeep* Now this is pretty much plain wrong!!!! Java, in and on itself, is not inaccessible, it's stupid programmers that write stupid java-applets,. That should never have been possible. HTML is not netscapes fault, it w3c's, and netscape hasn't touched Java very much, IE and Netscape had java-support at the same time. And Microsoft haven't innovated shit. they have moslty bought their "innovations" and Windows is alot more accesible than linux when it comes to apps, In Linux you can't just start jaws and then pretty much any other app without problems, try and do that on linux with X (say to do something thee are no fileformat->text-app, You will fail miserably, but luckily this is seldom the case for most of you. And you can happily use Linux in console instead of X. oh, well time to stop rantin and start sleeping... /Peter -- Alpha Test Version: Too buggy to be released to the paying public. Beta Test Version: Still too buggy to be released. Release Version: Alternate pronunciation of "Beta Test Version".