If doing a redhat install and using speakup you have doubletalk lt on /dev/ttyS0 would the parameters to give to lilo be: speakup_ser=/dev/ttyS0 speech_synthe=dtlt? I had email earlier for this but lost it and am about to start a linux install today if I can find this out and will also make some braille notes too to guard against lost email. Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>