Brent: I'm putting some responses to you in the middle of your mail. I'll mark them JANINA: On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > text speakup_synth=dtlk is exactly one option I tried, when I didn't get > speech, I rebooted to windows and got got the floppy from > speakup.octothorp.org, as I knew it had to have speakup in it, and then it > worked. JANINA: This is evidence that your first floppy image came without speakup. So, if that original floppy came from the CDR you used to install Redhat, you have your answer as to why you don't have speech. It was an installation CD ROM without speakup. Plain and simple. I don't know how to make this more plain. It's not just the floppy that matters. It's also other installation files. When I got to lilo configuring, I added speakup_synth=dtlk to the > line that already had something like hdd=ide-scsi. > Or should the ide-scsi be separate on a line of it's own? Either way, no > speech on reboot, JANINA: As abofe, a talking floppy won't get you a talking install if your CDR is not patched with speakup as well. PS: the append ide-scsi and speakup all go on the same line. so I copied the kernel from the floppy I booted with that > did talk, and ran lilo. I rebooted and now I have the failed keymap plus > depmod not finding the /lib/modules/2.4.x-2BOOT/modules.dep couldn't be > opened for writing, so for a quick fix, I simlinked what I had with the > path it errored about and got unresolved module symbols, so I deleted the > link, and removed modules.dep for whatever else must be done now. I went to > ftp.braille.uwo.ca/pub/linux/speakup and downloaded the speakup 0.10a file, > and put it in place using the slackware boot disks that read windows > partitions. I made a simlink from /usr/src/linux-2.4 to linux which worked, > but installing gave a bunch of file doesn't exist for spark, m68k, and > other non intel processors, and then some patch failed. So, I restored the > original kernel tree, and that's where it stands. JANINA: And what if it did boot? Wpouild you trust such a hacked install to actually work? Start over. Wipe the disk and start over. > 1At 11:06 PM 10/15/01 -0400, you wrote: > >I'm confused. Your message speaks of booting from CD. Do you mean the > >Redhat installation CDR? This should boot to put you into the installation > >script or perhaps to rescue mode, but not for ordinary every day linux > >access. > > > >Yes, the installation CDR does contain a graphical install option. > > > >If you are speaking of this CDR, the correct incantation is: > > > >text speakup_synth=dtlk > > > >This is for the internal Doubletalk, right? This is an iso card, not the > >Litetalk which attaches a serial port. That designator is ltlk and > >defaults to ttyS0. > > > >I am unaware that speakup would work with cygwin. I would count on a good > >DOS screen reader for cygwin. > > > > On Sun, > >14 Oct 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > > > >> Wow, I have, in /etc/lilo.conf, among other stuff. > >> append="hdd=ide-scsi speakup_synth=dtlk", or something similar. It works, > >> not worried about the ide-scsi for the burner as without modules it won't > >> ever work anyways. PPP is also a module I can't seem to force in to place, > >> maybe he just looked at the end of the file and took the image from > >> anywhere, although I specifically gave the saitech address so it wouldn't > >> be a version I couldn't use. When I boot the cd, and type > >> text speakup_synth=dtlk, or even text linux speakup_synth=dtlk, I get no > >> speech. > >> If I do linux speakup_synth=dtlk, it boots straight to x before I can slip > >> the text parameter in. > >> Can I use speakup from the ftp site, or do I really need the files from > >> cvs? I tried checking out speakup with cygwin, and get no files or > >> directory called speakup that I can take to a floppy and mount ext2. I > >> suppose if it won't read fat or fat32 on disk, I can use cygwin to cat the > >> speakup archive to disk, and cat it to a file aggain when linux boots with > >> the stripped kernel, that second serial port I wish my laptop had would've > >> been the easiest anyways, primary is hooked to my dectalk express there. > >> At 07:39 PM 10/14/01 -0400, you wrote: > >> >Find out if he did actually use that server. If so, relief is on the CDR. > >> > > >> >If not, you can still get something back--but it won't talk without > >> >compiling speakup in. So, where it came from is the key to whether to fix > >> >or redo. > >> > On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > >> > > >> >> My friend burned me one, I told him to use that saitech or whatever > server > >> >> it was with speech in it, and it didn't talk. I then used a floppy I got > >> >> from ftp://speakup.octothorp.org, and that installed, but depmod fails > >> >> because of the difference in version of -2BOOT in the kernel. I tried > >> >> simlinking what I had, but that fails too. I bet fat32 support is in a > >> >> module so downloading a new speaking kernel won't help. > >> >> > >> >> >Brent: > >> >> > > >> >> >You'll get better responses to your speakup related questions on the > >> >> >speakup list. Not all of the speakup folks read blinux. > >> >> > > >> >> >As to the boot floppy, it shouldn't matter. Once the kernel is booted > >> from > >> >> >the floppy, the install proceeds from the install image (CDR, or > >> >> >whatever). > >> >> > > >> >> >Where did you get the CDR? > >> >> > > >> >> > On Sat, 13 Oct > >> >> >2001, Brent Harding wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Where can I get the speakup boot disk floppy image for redhat 7.1? > >> I just > >> >> >> got a CD of it, and can only find 7.2, but hate to find it useless > that > >> >> >> someone burned it for me and I got it last week after waiting awhile. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> >> >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >-- > >> >> > > >> >> > Janina Sajka, Director > >> >> > Technology Research and Development > >> >> > Governmental Relations Group > >> >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >> >> > > >> >> >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >> >> > > >> >> >Chair, Accessibility SIG > >> >> >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > >> >> >http://www.openebook.org > >> >> > > >> >> >Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > >> >> >Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > >> >> > > >> >> >Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > >> >> >King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > >> >> >http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > >> >> > > >> >> >Learn how to make accessible software at > >> >> >http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >> > > >> >> >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> >> >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> >> > >> > > >> >-- > >> > > >> > Janina Sajka, Director > >> > Technology Research and Development > >> > Governmental Relations Group > >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >> > > >> >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >> > > >> >Chair, Accessibility SIG > >> >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > >> >http://www.openebook.org > >> > > >> >Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > >> >Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > >> > > >> >Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > >> >King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > >> >http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > >> > > >> >Learn how to make accessible software at > >> >http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> > > >> >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > > > >-- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > >Chair, Accessibility SIG > >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > >http://www.openebook.org > > > >Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > >Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > >Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > >King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > >http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > >Learn how to make accessible software at > >http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp