This is for win telnet? Windows telnet has an annoying problem of repeating past lines, cygwin and ve are OK, have yet to try it with Asap demo for a quick fix until my linux stuff is fixed up, gotta get a couple RPM's and use slackware boot disks to mount the fat32 system, but Bill's site with 7.1 stuff seems to be slow, guess he's transfering files to the real speakup site, but 7.1 is missing there. I could maybe rsync my iso image of 7.1 to 7.2 by dd'ing the CD to a file, but wwhether I'd be downloading more than the original anyways, not sure. >The release version is the last, I believe, and unchanged since it went >freeware some years ago. I was never a JAWS for DOS user so certainly >don't know about any of its power features. All I'm saying is that I have >not been particularly successful when I've tried to use it, mainly because >it is free, in PC Console sessions under Windows for tasks like telnet >from the K95 suite. In my experience, asap talks right out of the box >without tweaks. Perhaps there are settings to apply to JAWS for DOS which >will cause it do as well, but I certainly don't know them. > On Sun, 14 Oct >2001, Jared wrote: > >> What version? Also there is something called tinytalk if anyone wants it let >> me know and I can send it to them. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> >> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 8:14 PM >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Access (Was Re: ultrasonix ) >> >> >> > >> > Yes, it is free, but I've not had good experience with it out of the box. >> > >> > >> > On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Jared wrote: >> > >> > > Jaws for dos from henter joice is free from there web sight not sure if >> you >> > > could make use of it thoe. >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net> >> > > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> >> > > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 7:42 PM >> > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD Access (Was Re: ultrasonix ) >> > > >> > > >> > > > asap is very much like speakup. >> > > > >> > > > The demo will run for 20 minutes and then play you a commercial about >> > > > buying asap. Then it'll play the commercial again in 19 minutes, then >> in >> > > > 18, etc. Numbers may progres a bit faster--I don't recall. >> > > > On Sun, 14 Oct >> > > > 2001, Brent Harding wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Does the asap demo pretty much work like speakup for editing? I >> suppose >> > > > > with ve, it's got cursor keys mixed up, so when I arrow around left >> and >> > > > > right fast enough it repeats the letter, but linux telnet with >> speakup >> > > > > edits like linux at physical console. VE still works when timed out, >> > > > > although you lose review mode and the like, but paying huge for dos >> > > support >> > > > > kind of sucks too. >> > > > > At 02:39 PM 10/14/01 -0400, you wrote: >> > > > > >Two suggestions: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >1.) Since you're using a demo of Vocal-Eyes, and not a registered >> > > > > >copy, why not go get the asap demo from http://www.microtalk.com? >> It >> > > works >> > > > > >well with PC Console apps without tweaks; >> > > > > > >> > > > > >2.) Try turning Revector checking on in Vocal-Eyes. Do: >> > > > > > Ctrl-Backslash to enter the VE Control Panel; >> > > > > > Arrow to Option 5 -- General >> > > > > > Arrow to Option 13 -- Advanced >> > > > > > Arrow to Option 3 -- Revector >> > > > > > >> > > > > >It will be off by default. Turn it on. It will tell you that you >> need >> > > to >> > > > > >reboot after using VE with this setting turned on, but that's not a >> > > > > >problem when running in a DOS Window under Windows because you can >> just >> > > > > >exit the DOS session and restart--something you probably mean to do >> > > > > >anyway. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Brent >> > > > > >Harding wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> I've been using cygwin a little while, I find it hard to edit >> files, >> > > the >> > > > > >> demo of vocal-eyes I have doesn't track the screen well, tried >> > > windows >> > > > > >> telnet, equally not good, but cygwin responds a little better. >> > > > > >> At 11:49 AM 10/13/01 -0400, you wrote: >> > > > > >> >On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Martin G. McCormick >> <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> I have been behind on reading Email this Summer, but I >> > > > > >> >> just read the discussion concerning FreeBSD. This is a little >> > > > > >> >> off-topic because FreeBSD isn't Linux, but it is open-source, >> > > > > >> >> free, and very robust. This last Summer, I installed >> FreeBSD-4.3 >> > > > > >> >> on four IBM Netfinity servers. It took me a bit to get the >> hang >> > > > > >> >> of the process, but it is extremely blind-friendly if your >> system >> > > > > >> >> has at least one serial port and that port functions as Com1. >> > > > > >> >Thanks a lot for your report; that's very interesting. >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> FreeBSD is just another fine open-source choice we have. >> > > > > >> >> I think it has much better security by default than Linux >> does, >> > > > > >> >> but Linux can be quite secure if you take the time to make it >> > > > > >> >> that way. >> > > > > >> >Well, actually, let's not forget that linux is just the kernel; >> > > security >> > > > > >> >level varies greatly between the different distributions. Also, >> > > > > >> distributions >> > > > > >> >like Redhat who are trying to become more user friendly can't >> quite >> > > do so >> > > > > >> >without sacrificing security a little. I think the level of >> security >> > > by >> > > > > >> >default also does differ amongst the different BSD based OSes >> > > anyway. >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> Anyway, I figured I would share my experiences with the >> > > > > >> >> rest of the list regarding FreeBSD. >> > > > > >> >Again, thank you for doing so. >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> I probably should amend what I said at the first. If >> > > > > >> >> you have a Windows P.C. and JAWS or any of the other Windows >> > > > > >> >> screen readers, that will also work fine to communicate with >> the >> > > > > >> >> FreeBSD system's serial port. Your Windows terminal program >> > > > > >> >> should emulate a VT100 and the Comm port needs to be 9600, N, >> 8 >> > > > > >> >> and 1 in order to work with the remote console built in to the >> > > > > >> >> FreeBSD installation disk. >> > > > > >> >Hey, you've forgotten linux! :) You could easily use a linux box >> > > with >> > > > > >> minicom >> > > > > >> >to access the target machine... >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK >> > > > > >> >> OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Network >> > > Operations >> > > > > Group >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> > > > > >> >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >_______________________________________________ >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >Blinux-list@redhat.com >> > > > > >> >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> > > > > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >-- >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director >> > > > > > Technology Research and Development >> > > > > > Governmental Relations Group >> > > > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) >> > > > > > >> > > > > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 >> > > > > > >> > > > > >Chair, Accessibility SIG >> > > > > >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >> > > > > >http://www.openebook.org >> > > > > > >> > > > > >Will electronic books surpass print books? 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Read our white paper, >> > Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp >> > >> > Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther >> > King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at >> > http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp >> > >> > Learn how to make accessible software at >> > http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > Blinux-list@redhat.com >> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > >-- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > >Chair, Accessibility SIG >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) >http://www.openebook.org > >Will electronic books surpass print books? 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