Nicolas, Turning kudzu off helped some. It eliminated the puzzling ,,at that was coming up on my Braille Lite. brltty is now more stable. I also checked to make sure I was in a text console mode. There is a message that says "init level 3", so that should be ok. Now when i boot the login: prompt comes up briefly and then disappears. However, the advance bars stil do not work consistently, the window left, dot 3, and window right, dot 6, do not work at all. Sometimes when I press ther right end of the advance bar it actually seems to skip back a few lines. Thanks to everyone who has helped with this problem. John Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Cc: <support@redhat.com> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 00:10 Subject: Re: Problems with Brltty > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, L. C. Robinson wrote: > > > I think turning kudzu off is a bad idea, especially for > > inexperienced users. > > You think so? > > I really feel like your suggestion about editing scripts or config files is > more likely to frighten inexperienced users than a simple "chkconfig kudzu > off". I personally never needed it after the initial Red Hat installation. > > > Nicolas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >