Hi Daryl, verizon does not use static ip addresses, it's all dynamically assigned ip addresses. Even so, thanks for the warning. I had closed lots of doors in setup then tried getting out on the internet. My zoom modem only produced static when I tried with it and my dsl modem kept on getting timeouts so I completely reinstalled linux so it's out of box settings then I'll experiment with closing doors once the dsl is working and see which door breaks it. Jude <jdashiel@shellworld.net>