wasn't attacking him personally, I simply meant to state there is most likely an issue with his configuration and thus he should check a pure systemd install be for spamming the ML with his inexperience, granted the dev may or may not be a douche but thats still no execuse for not exhausting all possibilities On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Nicholas MIller <nick.kyky@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > On Aug 16, 2012 10:04 PM, "Justin Strickland" <azriel.kiten@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > A better solution would be for you to reinstall with a clean pure > install, > > then install systemd, and see if you run into the same solution which I > bet > > you won't, I'm calling pebkac and ID-107 until you've used systemd on a > > pure install. if 9.999999/10 users have no issue with a default systemd > > install then the problem exists between the keyboard and the computer. > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Felipe Contreras < > > felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM, John K Pate <j.k.pate@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:16:31 +0200 > > > > Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto > > > >> <denisfalqueto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> > This is so stupid that it's not even funny. You said that the > problem > > > >> > was having CONFIG_HZ=300 and systemd. I said it is not, because I > also > > > >> > have that situation and it works. So, your point is moot. I didn't > say > > > >> > you don't have a problem, but just that it may be not related to > > > >> > CONFIG_HZ. I even sent you an article with ways on how to inspect > the > > > >> > behaviour of systemd, which was completely ignored. > > > >> > > > >> My problem with CONFIG_HZ exists > > > >> independently of whether you experience the problem yourself or not. > > > > > > > > But it suggests that the problem is not *just* systemd and > > > > CONFIG_HZ=300. I am, and many others are, running systemd with > > > > CONFIG_HZ=300 fine. > > > > > > Show me two bootcharts, one with CONFIG_HZ_300=y, and another with > > > CONFIG_HZ_1000=y. Then I will believe that you are running systemd > > > fine. The other possibility is that you are just not noticing the > > > problem. > > > > > > > If you encountered a problem, there must be some > > > > other underlying cause. A constructive response would work towards > > > > finding and addressing the other underlying cause. > > > > > > A logical reason would be that systemd is too sensitive on signals > > > arriving fast, and if that's the case it's quite likely that there is > > > no easy solution (if any). > > > > > > But anyway, my objective is not to improve systemd (I might have tried > > > that if Lennart wasn't such an asshole), my objective is to show that > > > systemd has problems, and CONFIG_HZ_300=y is just an example... there > > > are other issues popping in arch-general that render the system > > > unbootable. > > > > > > Perhaps in the future I will have time to investigate the issue, and > > > make a proper bug report, and systemd would work properly for me, and > > > most Arch Linux users, but I believe that's not the case *currently*. > > > > > > So I believe the logical course of action is to delay the migration > > > until systemd is more robust. > > > > > > All I want is to minimize the issues that Arch Linux users hit, but > > > unfortunately so far it seems Arch Linux developers don't care about > > > how many problems could this move cause. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > -- > > > Felipe Contreras > > > > > 2 things top posting and no matter how much of an ass someone may or may > not be no need for personal attacks >
