On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM, John K Pate <j.k.pate@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:16:31 +0200 > Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto >> <denisfalqueto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > This is so stupid that it's not even funny. You said that the problem >> > was having CONFIG_HZ=300 and systemd. I said it is not, because I also >> > have that situation and it works. So, your point is moot. I didn't say >> > you don't have a problem, but just that it may be not related to >> > CONFIG_HZ. I even sent you an article with ways on how to inspect the >> > behaviour of systemd, which was completely ignored. >> >> My problem with CONFIG_HZ exists >> independently of whether you experience the problem yourself or not. > > But it suggests that the problem is not *just* systemd and > CONFIG_HZ=300. I am, and many others are, running systemd with > CONFIG_HZ=300 fine. Show me two bootcharts, one with CONFIG_HZ_300=y, and another with CONFIG_HZ_1000=y. Then I will believe that you are running systemd fine. The other possibility is that you are just not noticing the problem. > If you encountered a problem, there must be some > other underlying cause. A constructive response would work towards > finding and addressing the other underlying cause. A logical reason would be that systemd is too sensitive on signals arriving fast, and if that's the case it's quite likely that there is no easy solution (if any). But anyway, my objective is not to improve systemd (I might have tried that if Lennart wasn't such an asshole), my objective is to show that systemd has problems, and CONFIG_HZ_300=y is just an example... there are other issues popping in arch-general that render the system unbootable. Perhaps in the future I will have time to investigate the issue, and make a proper bug report, and systemd would work properly for me, and most Arch Linux users, but I believe that's not the case *currently*. So I believe the logical course of action is to delay the migration until systemd is more robust. All I want is to minimize the issues that Arch Linux users hit, but unfortunately so far it seems Arch Linux developers don't care about how many problems could this move cause. Cheers. -- Felipe Contreras