Excerpts from Ray Rashif's message of 2011-08-04 12:13:45 +0200: > On 4 August 2011 17:35, Philipp Überbacher <hollunder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > In this specific case I don't think the upstream name matters much since > > I even have a hard time figuring out how upstream calls this part of LO. > > I don't know where the packager got the name from but it might well have > > been the ubuntu package for all I can figure out. I personally find a > > sane naming scheme in arch more important than consistency across > > distros (which would be pretty much the only reason to go with the > > 'wrong' name). > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Linux > > Has 'GNOME' and 'KDE' sprawled all over. Some wiki page, big deal. Doesn't mean we have to use gnome. > In this case, implying gtk is as misleading as implying gnome; it is > no better. The office suite really does not look native at all, it > just tries its best to be close to the 'desktop' (overall) _theme_ > with icons and an appropriate file chooser. So technically, and > ultimately, it is not appropriate to imply gtk since it does a > horrible job with integrating to a widget system. It uses the theme, icons and file chooser, that's already a lot for a thing that's about looks. > In other cases, where the respective gtk and qt packages override for > say, a UI, then the gtk implication rather than gnome would be > appropriate. So how does gnome make any more sense? It's not using a gnome UI either. > It's not always possible to make the non-DE users happy. In fact, > non-DE users have to adapt to the latest conventions and most > importantly, adapt to the norm. It is up to us to see whether an > integration works satisfactorily and without all the bulk, rather than > demand it. Expecting '-gnome' or '-kde' to always come with their > desktop-specific dependencies is not a proper expectation, for it is > not always "integration" in the correct, or full, sense. I have no idea what you're talking about in this paragraph. > Many applications claiming 'gtk' as part of its name or description > actually depend on gnome libraries. It's a fragmentation we have to > deal with, because it's a popular practice, and thus, the norm. No, this is just wrong and reinforcing bad practice.
