On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 10:55:22AM +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: > Thanks to enough input i have learned two things of this thread: > > 1) The problem IS upstream related. Some packages do enable > dbus when it is available, for the convenience of those users > who do not understand what dbus is and hence need it. > > Archs philosophy dictates, that if the upstream is retarded, > so shall be the package. I used this as argument, and i shall > comply to it equally. > > 2) I am in fact the minority, not those who see linux > as a free windows copy. Hence i should > 2.1) stfu and obey the will of the mass > 2.2) find or found a distro that > is not based on the will of the mass > > The combination of 1 and 2 invalidates everything > i have said in this thread. > I think you are just reading more that what is said. Many GNU/Linux distros and Arch and Debian in particular are definitely not free Windows. I run Arch and Debian servers and desktops and have never install any of the gnome/kde stuff unless asked to on gunpoint. I use xmonad and share your dislike for hal/dbus. This however does not justify not having a decent PnP particulary when you want to install it for non-experts. To my eyes Arch has been quite snappy and minimalist, even made me switch from Debian stable on my laptop. It is definitely far better than the monstrosity of Ubuntu or Fedora. I dont know how you find it otherwise. Regards ppk
