On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Arvid Picciani <aep@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Daenyth Blank <daenyth+arch@xxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> 2009/12/1 Arvid Picciani <aep@xxxxxxxx>: >>>> >>>> Arvid Picciani wrote: >>>> >>>>> warning: cannot resolve "hal>=0.5.13", a dependency of "xorg-server" >>>> >>>> never mind my bitching. rebuilding xorg-server without hal was a matter >>>> of >>>> abs,edit,makepkg >>>> >>>> <3 arch >>>> >>> Are you using -Syu or are you trying to just randomly -S things? >>> Normally a full upgrade should not have conflicts to this degree. >> > > -Syu > >> Unless his system is fairly old and he hasn't updated in a while. >> xorg-server depending on hal happened a fairly long time ago, didn't >> it? > > nope. The hal crap has been added to X a while ago as "optional" (meaning X > would just freeze without it, but at least pretend to start) , but the > forced dependency is new (as in, it doesnt start when compiled with hal, but > no hal present). > The difference is that previously you could get get away with a hack in > xorg.conf without having to rebuild xorg without --enable-config-hal Oh shit, seriously? Looks like I'll have to rebuild this as well. Serious question: does ANYONE have a keyboard that didn't automatically work before this debacle? External keyboard always Just Worked without needing to do anything. The same with mice if I used /dev/input/mice. Sure, I didn't have a crazy Xtreme Gaming Mouse 9000 or anything, but it never once failed for me under ordinary usage... > I guess the new way is better, since it seperates the ubuntu aproach from > power user systems in a clean way. If my source is reliable (some dude on > irc), X.org will continue to support both versions and seperate them > clearly, maybe even with modules. That'd be _nice_! Oh a module would be wonderful