On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Oh shit, seriously? Looks like I'll have to rebuild this as well. > > Serious question: does ANYONE have a keyboard that didn't > automatically work before this debacle? External keyboard always Just > Worked without needing to do anything. The same with mice if I used > /dev/input/mice. Sure, I didn't have a crazy Xtreme Gaming Mouse 9000 > or anything, but it never once failed for me under ordinary usage... > I just noticed there is a decent section on the wiki about this subject : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging#Rationale Digging a bit more, I also found a similar page on debian wiki which might be even more interesting : http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide The fun part is that the end of the article actually gives a reference to arch wiki page. Debian also have a bunch of "we do not need hal" whiners, which lead to a bug report. And for example this answer from a developer is also informative : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515214#91 I have yet to see someone serious and informed saying input hotplug sucks. All xorg developers I have seen (on the web : ML, blogs, irc, ...) seem to agree this new infrastructure is much better. Anyway hal is dead : http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2009/Notes?highlight=%28hal%29|%28udev%29#head-75cccc4e4968dd043dcf2166dff61afd7d0d06c5 But since that functionality is definitely needed, it will have to be replaced.. somehow.