On 02/12/09 07:38, Arvid Picciani wrote:
Ray Kohler wrote:
What I personally am in support of, in the general case, is
"suckless.org-style" minimalism, rather than following upstream's
direction. So if upstream changes the default to enable the hal and
dbus bits, I will then be in favor of Arch disabling them, and we'll
be in disagreement then. (That said, if that actually does happen, I
won't asking the Arch devs to implement my wishes, since they'd
clearly be in violation of the Arch way.)
Indeed. As brought up by others, forcing minimalism is as much
violation as forcing bloat.
However, arch has been built around the idea that users are capable
of customizing packages to non-upstream settings.
I urge you to do exactly that.
I have posted and will continue to post various bugs to the tracker
to restore upstream defaults in favor for minimalism. If these reverts
get rejected in favor for bloat, the clear bias is a disregard of the
very core ideas of arch, and I will eventually fork arch entirely,
given enough support.
Either way, i'd welcome if you contribute, in order to get the user
experience you (and others including me) desire. That is, either
contribute packages to aur, to fix insane upstream defaults, or
contribute to an eventual fork to restore upstream defaults.
Will you? :)
Let me just leave this right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F-3E8pyjFo
