2009/12/1 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee@xxxxxxxxx>: > When I started on here the mantra was "Arch is what you make it". > Packagers strive to make packages which are as vanilla as possible > (without breaking) and provide the utility expected of such packages. Of > course, if you want a system without hal/dbus, there's ABS and AUR. I > don't see why your dislike of particular implementations implies that > every user of Arch should forgo those implementations. I've been thinking about this particular part of the "Arch way". I think what causes the conflict in some of these cases is that "trusting upstream" - one of our major principles - only works when upstream is sane. Wacky things (like what freedesktop.org has been doing to Xorg for a while now) make me begin to think this assumption is violated in some important cases. When upstream ceases to really care about Arch-like systems and only support more Ubuntu-like systems, we have a problem with our "don't patch" philosophy.
