Re: Dell AIO speaker pop noise

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On 2019/4/16 下午5:43, Takashi Iwai wrote:
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:31:22 +0200,
hwang4 wrote:

On 2019/4/16 下午4:59, Kailang wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 4:22 PM
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: Kailang <kailang@xxxxxxxxxxx>; hwang4 <hui.wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
(alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) <alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re:  Dell AIO speaker pop noise

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:01:31 +0200,
Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
Dne 16. 04. 19 v 9:30 Kailang napsal(a):
Hi Takashi,

Issue 1: The noise keeps occurring via speaker when Headset is plugged in.
Issue 2: The humming noise is occuring when switching to sound of
settings.
	 The noise will be stopped when switching to other options of settings.
Issue 3: The popping noise occurred for one second when plugged in and
removed the headset.
This patch will solve this three issues.
Hi,

    could you explain, why the power-save function causes this
behaviour? Can we do something else than turning off the power-save
codec settings to avoid such noises? I have this question because it's really
easy to disable something, but I feel that the culprit of the noises might be just
the wrong codec settings. I guess that you have probably full documentation
for the codec and probably for the hardware, so it might be nice to find the
real culprit.

Note that power_save_node=0 doesn't mean that the whole power saving is
disabled.  It disables the fine-grained power saving, i.e. powering down the
unused widget nodes.

If so, I wonder whether this might be about the default pin-shutup behavior.  I
improved the click noise problem on my Dell desktop by disabling the pin
shutup.  See commit c0ca5eced222.
Kailang, Hui, did you try to add the chain to ALC269_FIXUP_NO_SHUTUP?

This noise was not happen on poweroff.
AIO use external AMP. So, it will be need to have a reference voltage via codec.
So, Pin-ctls was not be 0. I apply option spec->gen.suppress_auto_mute = 1 to avoid that.
Internal SPK PIN also don't enter to D3. But I find it just only happen on ALC274 family codecs.
ALC274 pin enter to D3. Pin-ctls also be 0. So, power_save_node=0 will let PIN to D0.

power_save = 0 it also could solve issue.

Yes, avoid setting pinctl is only part fix, the ODM said the main
problem is the EAPD pin is high->low->high->low periodically, it has
sth to do with the widget node power state.
FWIW, there is also spec->gen.keep_eapd_on=1 that prevents the EAPD
toggle at power saving.

Got it, but does it prevent Nodes or the whole codec from entering D3?

Here the EADP is low, it is not because the set_eapd() is called, I checked the EAPD of all nodes, they are all 0x2 all the time. And patch_realtek already set the own_eapd_ctl=1, and the NID for speaker is 0x16, it is not in the:

    static hda_nid_t pins[] = {
        0x0f, 0x10, 0x14, 0x15, 0x17, 0
    };

So the driver will not set the eapd to 0 for speaker. If keep_eapd_on=1 can prevent codec/nodes from entering D3, maybe it will help.

Thanks,

Hui.



Takashi
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