Jim, you may fly small planes but you have a big sense of humor. ATC still cannot jumpseat because the Office of Stater Brothers Security (a CA grocery store chain that has the slogan "The Heartland of California") think they need new stinkin' badges. It really annoys my uncle who is a controller, as it deprives them the oppertunity to see things from the pilots end (not that pilots often accept their anytime invite into the tower cab).