Hey all, I was doing some thinking about upgrade vs update and the confusion around those two. to clarify: yum update - only updates packages you have installed does not include or consult an obsoletes lists yum upgrade - does updates + obsoletes I was thinking maybe dump upgrade as an option entirely and include a new option - like -o/--obsoletes to include the obsoletes lookup. also have it matched with an obsoletes=1 in the config file. That would remove one source of confusion and let people who want to use obsoletes, always, just make a yum.conf modification and not modify their yum.cron job. -sv