This sounds like a good idea. It makes things easier for the uninitiated to understand. I'd like to take this opportunity to revisit the issue I raised a while ago in https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/pipermail/yum/2003-August/001777.html Basically the issue is that "obsoletes" can mean two things, and we need a way to distinguish between them. Specifically "I obsolete him" can mean either of: 1) If you install me, you must remove him. 2) If you have him installed, then you must remove him and install me instead. The are different, and result in different actions, so we need a way to tell yum which version of "obsolete" we mean. Thoughts? Rick On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, at 08:04 PM, seth vidal wrote: > Hey all, > I was doing some thinking about upgrade vs update and the confusion > around those two. > > to clarify: > yum update - only updates packages you have installed does not include > or consult an obsoletes lists > yum upgrade - does updates + obsoletes > > I was thinking maybe dump upgrade as an option entirely and include a > new option - like -o/--obsoletes to include the obsoletes lookup. > > also have it matched with an obsoletes=1 in the config file. > > That would remove one source of confusion and let people who want > to use > obsoletes, always, just make a yum.conf modification and not modify > their yum.cron job. > > -sv