seth vidal wrote : > to clarify: > yum update - only updates packages you have installed does not include > or consult an obsoletes lists > yum upgrade - does updates + obsoletes > > I was thinking maybe dump upgrade as an option entirely and include a > new option - like -o/--obsoletes to include the obsoletes lookup. Oh no :-( For me, obsoletes should always be considered, it's a natural thing that may be very useful and get the user into weird situation if it is ignored (for instance, a newer "rpm" obsoleting "rpm-perl" in order to get the latter removed during an upgrade). I understand the reason why you want to remove it : Obsoletes loops. Lots of us have in mind the gated/zebra one from RHL 7.3 as an example, but that for me is a packaging bug! Sure, there will be obsoletes=[0/1] in the config file for the default behavior, but I really think considering obsoletes should be the default, and possibly let packagers/users turn it off for distributions where there are buggy obsoletes loops, as that is something that shouldn't happen anymore. Matthias -- Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/ Raw Hide 20031008 - Linux kernel 2.4.22-20.1.2024.2.36.nptl Load : 0.34 0.15 0.14