seth vidal wrote: >>can you give me an example? I never see (or just not recognize it?) >>I usualy do kernel and glibc by hand and all other by rpm -Fvh * > > > multi archs was one :) iirc it didn't handle them well, maybe it does > now... but even in that case yum can do it correctly:-) >>it's not a solution in a production enviroment! eg in case of kernel you >>should have to reboot ASAP since some kernel modul can't loaded if it >>just required after the update! another example our samba server >>_should_ have to run 24 hour a day it can be stopped on saturday between >>20-24. ok I know about exclude but there is a few server on which I >>would like to select the packages manualy (since I belive in myself >>which is the biggest mistake) but after I select them I'd like to update >>them in a branch. > > > not really true. > yum installs kernels, always. It will never update a kernel. So you'd > never be in that state with yum. is that documented? or I just don't read something again? > ie: the modules for old kernels are still there. > > It'd be unsafe to do otherwise. why? in daemon mode you've got right, but whem I use it manually...? it's the same as if you said rpm -Uvh kernel-2* would be unsafe. > you should look into some of the options that people have been coming up > with. > > what if you had yum use a url for its config file? > > yum -c http://myserver/yum.cgi > > then used the command= option in the conf file to tell it what to do? ok. you are the maintaner/writer and you can "moderate" suggestions.... > then you could time certain updates for friday or saturday and keep your > system safe - completely w/o entering an 'excludes' in. > > > One thing that is higher on my list of things would be to be able to > match package updates with "Actions" > > so if yum notices that pkg x changed state it would take an action based > on the change of state. the action could be a user written script > > sorta like something BEYOND what %post and %pre inside an rpm do. actualy I don't realy understand it. could you give me an example? >>this is just a matter of taste, but I'm still lazy:-((( > > > join the club - laziness prompted me to write yum ;) and I already start to write a wrapper shell script around yum with sort options:-) these can be done without modify yum... could you give me an explanation what the update and install exacly means in yum? it seems to me some kind of rpm -F -U -i mix... -- Levente http://petition.eurolinux.org/index_html "The only thing worse than not knowing the truth is ruining the bliss of ignorance."