Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 01:54 +1200, Nigel Jones wrote:
Nigel Jones wrote:
Hi all, two items of business that I want to bring up
1) We now have a bot on the wiki, appropriately named Wikibot, this
can be used for general repetitive tasks such as en-mass addition of
categories to pages, and some general clean-up tasks that needs
to/should happen once in a while.
2) Some pages are getting a bit too big, while some are getting
useless as time goes on (information for EOL releases. As such I
propose the addition of two new name spaces...
a) Archive: (without talk pages)
Purpose - To allow archiving wiki pages pertaining to EOL releases,
and/or are no longer relevant to the general user
Benefits - With proper setup (not searched by default for instance) we
can help speed up searches and remove old information from general end
users, BUT still be there for those interested. Pages like the old
Extras and FSA pages come to mind immediately.
b) Meeting: (with talk pages)
Purpose - Allow some separation of end-user based content and
board/committee/group meeting logs
Benefits - Marginal, similar to the purpose of Archive though,
basically, somewhere to keep meeting logs in a place where they can be
optionally searched but not by default
There is a third...
c) QA: (with talk pages)
Purpose - Allow QA folks to store software test-cases off the beaten track
Benefits - Ease of access for QA members, out of the way for
users/developers, not searched on default, but still searchable if
people want to
Notes - This comes from
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/588 Testopia
didn't quite work out and they are still unsure, so if noone has any
objections, I'd like to approve this request on the basis of "It's okay
with us, just let us know if/when you want to use it".
Speak now or forever hold your peace!
With the first two, there's a definite positive return in reducing the
visibility of the pages. In the former, it's the whole point, and in
the latter, it keeps long pages out of the limelight, while still
allowing searchability.
But remember that one of the keys to Fedora is transparency. The
problems with Testopia can be solved in the medium-term, and the
reduction in searchability for QA stuff is, to me, not a win. Keep in
mind that I live with a highly-organized wife, so no slight intended,
but am I missing the point in this level of binning in the case of a QA:
namespace?
Okay, my understanding on the QA team's purpose for the namespace is this:
* General pages (about the QA team, what they do) remain in the main
namespace (under QA/*)
* Testcases (what would have been in testopia) would be placed in the QA
namespace (QA:*)
It's a very subtle difference from what really is of interest to
everyone (about the group) and what is specifically targetted to QA team
members in Fedora and other FOSS projects.
It's nowhere near something to pull the wool over someone's eyes.
- Nigel
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