On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 12:21 +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 01:54 +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > > > >> Nigel Jones wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, two items of business that I want to bring up > >>> > >>> 1) We now have a bot on the wiki, appropriately named Wikibot, this > >>> can be used for general repetitive tasks such as en-mass addition of > >>> categories to pages, and some general clean-up tasks that needs > >>> to/should happen once in a while. > >>> 2) Some pages are getting a bit too big, while some are getting > >>> useless as time goes on (information for EOL releases. As such I > >>> propose the addition of two new name spaces... > >>> > >>> a) Archive: (without talk pages) > >>> Purpose - To allow archiving wiki pages pertaining to EOL releases, > >>> and/or are no longer relevant to the general user > >>> Benefits - With proper setup (not searched by default for instance) we > >>> can help speed up searches and remove old information from general end > >>> users, BUT still be there for those interested. Pages like the old > >>> Extras and FSA pages come to mind immediately. > >>> > >>> b) Meeting: (with talk pages) > >>> Purpose - Allow some separation of end-user based content and > >>> board/committee/group meeting logs > >>> Benefits - Marginal, similar to the purpose of Archive though, > >>> basically, somewhere to keep meeting logs in a place where they can be > >>> optionally searched but not by default > >>> > >> There is a third... > >> > >> c) QA: (with talk pages) > >> Purpose - Allow QA folks to store software test-cases off the beaten track > >> Benefits - Ease of access for QA members, out of the way for > >> users/developers, not searched on default, but still searchable if > >> people want to > >> Notes - This comes from > >> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/588 Testopia > >> didn't quite work out and they are still unsure, so if noone has any > >> objections, I'd like to approve this request on the basis of "It's okay > >> with us, just let us know if/when you want to use it". > >> > >> Speak now or forever hold your peace! > >> > > > > With the first two, there's a definite positive return in reducing the > > visibility of the pages. In the former, it's the whole point, and in > > the latter, it keeps long pages out of the limelight, while still > > allowing searchability. > > > > But remember that one of the keys to Fedora is transparency. The > > problems with Testopia can be solved in the medium-term, and the > > reduction in searchability for QA stuff is, to me, not a win. Keep in > > mind that I live with a highly-organized wife, so no slight intended, > > but am I missing the point in this level of binning in the case of a QA: > > namespace? > > > Okay, my understanding on the QA team's purpose for the namespace is this: > > * General pages (about the QA team, what they do) remain in the main > namespace (under QA/*) > * Testcases (what would have been in testopia) would be placed in the QA > namespace (QA:*) > > It's a very subtle difference from what really is of interest to > everyone (about the group) and what is specifically targetted to QA team > members in Fedora and other FOSS projects. > > It's nowhere near something to pull the wool over someone's eyes. Sure, not meaning to imply anyone's being all sneaky-like. :-) The way you just explained it, clarifies quite a lot, thanks. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug
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