On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 10:40 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > Tim via users wrote: > > > [...] > The "stunningly stupid" bit was virtually anonymous aspect. They > just > take it on face value that you are who you claim to be. Granted we > don't have identity cards in this country, and as I pointed out a > great > many people don't need them (don't drive, don't own firearms, don't > even have a bank account...). > I live in Northern Ireland, where we do have voter verification. Not an ID card per se, but some kind of photo ID (driving licence, passport, even a bus pass). The same is now happening in the rest of the UK because of scare stories about fraud, but it's essentially unnecessary. The cost/benefit ratio of fraud on a large enough scale to affect an election means it simply isn't worth it. > > They always declare a winner well before they've counted all the > votes. > It always makes me wonder if they get it wrong but don't advertise > it. > Nope. At least in the UK that simply doesn't happen. The media publish exit polls as soon as polling closes, but the actual count is what counts (pun intended). > The types of voting are another curse in themselves, designed more to > serve those who want to stay in power rather than give the electorate > democracy. If you think you live in one, just try to get your local > representative to do something against their party's policies. > You'll > soon find that they don't represent you. > That's a completely separate issue. We're getting really OT here. > If our Xlotto system can input your 6 numbers of out 42 instantly, > have > all the data loaded in before the draw, and automatically declare all > the winners later that night, why can't we use such a system? It > could > also stop illegitimate votes. > > It uses either a swipe card for members with preselected numbers, or > one of those punch cards you fill in with a lead pencil. Quite tried > and tested technology. Again, OT, but many people who think voting systems are simple haven't actually thought it through (and experienced IT experts are particularly prone to this fallacy), I mean it's just counting isn't it?). The real world problem is not the technology itself, it's persuading people to trust something they can't see, where some actors have a vested interest in telling their supporters that the system is fraudulent or that The Man is trying to manipulate them. I suggest we leave it there. poc -- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
