multi-user vs graphical mode (was startx equivalent for Wayland)

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I wrote:

> I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode
> (old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the
> startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent command to start a
> Wayland session.

Tim via users wrote:

>I don't really see the advantage in not starting a desktop session,
>just to log in, then starting one afterwards.  There must be something
>I'm missing.

If you want to change the subject, you should change the subject line.

The principal advantage is that I get to see what the system is doing
during boot and login. I strongly dislike any interface that tries
to make things "simple" by hiding what it does. I don't trust things
that are hidden from view.

And I've probably used computers longer than most of us, having started
with an IBM 7094 and an 029 keypunch. There are certainly good use
cases for a graphic application, especially for things I don't do
often and don't remember the tricks. But every graphic system has
its own ways whereas the command line uses only things on a standard
keyboard. Most of us know the words, "file", and, "save", but when
was the last time anyone here used a manila folder or a floppy disk?
(Don't tell me about "hover" to discover the meaning of some silly
picture. That's just extra work, and tedious besides when searching
through dozens of pictures for the one needed.)
         Dave Close, Compata, Irvine CA       +1 714 434 7359
       dave@xxxxxxxxxxx              dhclose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
           "I am patient with stupidity but not with those
            who are proud of it." -- Edith Sitwell

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