Re: Fwd: [Undeliverable: Re: Mailing lists and Discourse]

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On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 11:01:55PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

However, with respect to Wolfgang's posts, the official DMARC (RFC
7489) protocol is not involved here since gmx.net publishes a policy
of "none", which means receivers should take no action merely on the
basis of failure of From alignment.  That said, the reason Google gave
for refusing your email is based on From alignment.  I suspect they
have other reasons, my own organization (a university that has
pretensions to world-class STEM research :-( ) marked your post as
SPAM.

Good to know.

Sorry, I can't tell you what the rationale is, the reason
report is encoded.  I myself don't see anything spammy about any of
your posts. :-(

I'm using this email address since around 20 years - and I actually
see since a few years occasionally that emails I sent to recipients I
know personally are probably tagged as spam - meaning, recipients only
find them after having a look to their spam folders. It rarely
happened, but it happened.

I know some "let's save the world" chain mail senders (one topic
something along the line of: "Don't eat chocolate from the bad guys" -
no kidding) sent me emails I wasn't interested in: they put my email
address together with hundreds of others into the Cc: header - didn't
happen too often, but I suspect often enough to ruin the non-spam
status of my address.

Lesson taken: don't give your email address to people that don't know
what they're doing on their computer.

> So yes: this email is explicitly meant to be also read the Fedora list
> administrators.

There are addresses specifically for that purpose.  It is very
frequently the case that list admins manage many lists they are not
subscribed to.  If you have specific requests for the list admins, use
the -owner address.

.. no such -owner or similar addresses seem to be available in the
mail-headers sent to this list.

But think carefully about whether you need to do that.  It's very
likely they'll just tell you what I just told you, and there's nothing
they can do.  If you repeatedly get DSNs from the same domain, you can
send them to the list owner, and they might unsubscribe those
accounts.  But that's up to them.

By now the list management - provided there is one - should know about
the problem. If they can't fix it I will by sending those DSNs to
/dev/null - or I just unsubscribe.

Thanks a lot for your time - goes out equally to everyone having
contributed to this thread.

Regards,
Wolfgang
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