Could repeated flames around systemd mean something is wrong with the way systemd introduces new features? If people complain often, maybe those changes should have been made in opt-in mode. Especially on upgrades from previous releases. The mentioned change were invasive and has broken multiple scenarios. Could perhaps systemd team invest more time to propagating their features and persuading people to start using (and wanting) new features, instead of just throwing them at people? Just my 2 cents. Regards, Petr On 4/19/22 02:57, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 07:47:28PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> This looks like an appeal to authority, and not an argument on its >> own merits. >> >> But let's go back and revisit all of that, if you insist. > This is quite missing my point. I'm not interested in _arguing_ at all. The > point is: your hyperbole about "hijacking" and etc. is not appropriate. This > is an intentional, discussed, and approved change that went through the > proper processes. > > It's fine for you to discuss the technical aspects — and even the "merits", > as you said. But if that's what you want to do, do that. Several years ago, > all of the vitriol and trolling on this list got so bad we had to shut down > pretty much every systemd discussion. Let's not go back to that. > -- Petr Menšík Software Engineer Red Hat, http://www.redhat.com/ email: pemensik@xxxxxxxxxx PGP: DFCF908DB7C87E8E529925BC4931CA5B6C9FC5CB _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
