Re: Kinda OT: Email clients and Email Management

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On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 09:09 -0600, c. marlow wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 07:22 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> > I've tried to move away from gmail, but it's not easy.
> > 
> > I've been a kde fan for years, and back in the day used kmail. 
> > Triggered by this discussion, I tried again to use kmail with
> > gmail/imap.  But after waiting some hours for mail to sync gave up.
> > 
> > I've never used evolution, but decided to try it.  This time speed
> > to
> > sync was much more acceptable.  But there is one barrier to using
> > evolution over gmail web interface.  Gmail sorts mail automatically
> > into "categories", distinct from the mail folders that you can
> > manually create.  I find these categories just too useful, and they
> > are not reflected into imap folders.  Without this sorting, my
> > inbox
> > is too cluttered with e.g., Promotions, which I would normally not
> > bother with when using gmail/web.
> 
> 
> I turn all of that stuff off. 
> 
> But there's one thing I cant stand about GMAIL imap, and that is when
> you go to delete a email and you tap the delete key, the emails get
> moved to [GMAIL/TRASH]. And when you go to look for something under
> ALL
> MAIL, 
> Emails that you wanted to keep are mixed in with trash until you move
> all of those emails under the label [ GMAIL/TRASH] to the actual
> trash
> folder under webmail.

The canonical way of deleting a message in IMAP is to simply mark it as
"Deleted". That makes it easy to undelete by simply removing the mark.
Evolution can optionally show you marked messages or hide them (see
View->Show Deleted Messages). You make the deletion permanent by
"expunging" the folder (not the individual message) or emptying the
Trash on the account. Evolution's default Trash is actually virtual;
it's simply a search folder that collects the messages marked for
deletion in every other folder.

This is the way IMAP servers are supposed to work, but not all
implementations follow the spec, and Gmail is one that doesn't.

Evolution was thus enhanced to cater for IMAP servers that have an
actual Trash folder to which messages are moved. You can get that
behaviour under:

Preferences->"account-name"->Defaults->Use a real folder for Trash

and setting it to Gmail/Trash.

poc
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