On Sun, 10 May 2020 12:20:44 -0400 Jonathan Billings <billings@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On May 10, 2020, at 11:54, George N. White III <gnwiii@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > >> On Sun, 10 May 2020 at 12:00, Jonathan Billings > >> <billings@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> On May 10, 2020, at 08:47, George N. White III <gnwiii@xxxxxxxxx> > >> wrote: > >> > Linux development today is mostly funded by big businesses and > >> > governments. Large enterprises have tight controls over email > >> > for security, legal, and business continuity reasons. Those > >> > controls could break down if MTA's are installed by default > >> > without explicit action by administrators. One consequence is > >> > a move away from using email for status reports (cron, logwatch) > >> > towards job management tools that provide resource management > >> > and scheduling as well as logging and status reporting. > >> > > >> > Maybe Fedora will need small business and hobbyist spins. > >> > >> I think it’s more likely that email is one of the biggest vectors > >> of spam and malware and it’s unmaintained MTAs that end up being > >> used to generate a lot of bogus email. On top of that, a lot of > >> ISPs are blocking outbound port 25 so MTAs in a default > >> configuration can’t deliver mail off the host anymore anyway. > > > > Those issues have been around for many years. The removal of MTA's > > from linux distros is relatively recent, and came after > > climate-gate and DNC email fiascos raised the profile of email at > > high levels of enterprise management. > > I suspect you might be over-politicizing this issue. The Fedora > discussion: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail#Detailed_Description > > It’s worth noting that they reference Ubuntu’s decision from 2007. If > anything, Fedora’s decision is well past due. > > Local mail delivery isn’t really a common configuration anymore, so > it makes sense to slim down the default install and leave installing > an MTA to people who are willing to properly configure the MTA to > forward messages to a proper mail drop. > > LSB requires a sendmail binary, but I think in this case LSB that’s > out of date with modern usage. > > -- > Jonathan Billings > Local mail delivery may not be common, but it is something that needs to be done. If not sendmail, then what? _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
