On 09/12/17 21:19, Tim wrote: > I'm not. Why are people trying to degrade Linux? Why are people > defending that? Why are people saying it's necessary? It wasn't > before. Why should it, *NOW*, become so. I get the feeling that if it were possible to go back to previous versions of say "fedora" and compile "tracer" it would come up with similar suggestions as to what should be "restarted". The stand-alone "tracer" program is supplied by python3-tracer whose description is... Description : Tracer determines which applications use outdated files and prints : them. For special kind of applications such as services or daemons, : it suggests a standard command to restart it. Detecting whether file : is outdated or not is based on a simple idea. If application has : loaded in memory any version of a file which is provided by any : package updated since system was booted up, tracer consider this : application as outdated. I'm pretty sure the same would have been true "way back when". You also said "For the last decade, or so, we've rarely had to reboot." Well, guess what? You *still* don't "HAVE TO". I certainly don't! This is pretty much a ridiculous thread. You are not obligated to apply updates when they are released. If you don't like it that GNOME downloads the updates for you to be applied when you reboot, disable that feature. If you don't like it that updates are applied by GNOME when you reboot, then run dnf manually. If you want to run dnf manually and not reboot, then don't reboot. It isn't *required* just *suggested*. I can't imagine that my systems are so special that I am the only one that chooses not to reboot most of the time after doing an update and rarely run into difficulties. Feel that you want to follow the suggestions of rebooting but can't stand waiting the few minutes it takes? Schedule it while you sleep. And pause that VM you "must" have running before you sleep. And, if none of the above works for you and you *must* have a system which never "should" be rebooted or processes never restarted due to updates then create a "working group" and put together standards that need to be followed to accomplish your goal and get people to buy in. Because that is the only way it will get done. Beating a dead horse on the user's list is not going get it done. -- Fedora Users List - The place to go to speculate endlessly
Attachment:
signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
_______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
