I took the following quote from from the recent thread "Fedora 25 not booting after update" - didn't want to hijack that thread and therefore started this new one: On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 01:56 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: [ ... ] > I use Gnome and I still do my updates directly online with dnf. It's > your choice how you do them. Ditto here: Gnome here (plus KDE installed, but rarely used) and I also update via dnf only, i.e. I log out of Gnome, log in to a tty, run "dnf upgrade", and reboot - did you, or anyone else, find a way to upgrade safely without the need to reboot? On Gnome? More info, and what got me to upgrade always with a reboot following: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject. org/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/ I'm relatively new to Fedora, and I'm astonished we seem to be on Linux in a situation now that I had on MS Windows. In previous times, on a Debian system, I rebooted the machine maybe once or twice a year (not kidding ..) and it worked - provided I didn't mess up dependencies with the package manager (I *did* mess it up .. :) .. ) TIA Wolfgang _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx